[tmtranscripts] FW: Lightline Teleconference Adjuster Series 2009-04-23

Tom Newbill t.oldbill at verizon.net
Mon May 4 23:09:34 PDT 2009




Subject: Lightline Teleconference - Adjuster Series - 2009-04-23

Teachers: The Voice, Monjoronson, Light

T/R: Mark Rogers

Mark: Recently some customers came into my store and as well some people
close to me caught me unaware with stories that they have been buying guns
and ammunition in unheard of quantities to the point where stores are
running out of same. My first reaction was that we're in Idaho, we're
redneck up here and dismissed it. That very night it was on the news
confirming that America itself was running out of ammunition. Some close to
me suggested one should be armed to protect themselves and it could even be
considered to be foolish to be unarmed for whatever might come.

I must admit I found myself as if living in a different universe because
this thought train was so strange to me, this preparing for battle mindset,
as I thought we had left this behind as a culture. This seemed to me a need
in times past such as the war of independence or the civil war. I thought we
were becoming enlightened beings and the need for such base reaction to
conflict would be somehow softened if not transcended. I was quite shocked
that this idea is quite prevalent, this idea that one should prepare for war
while simultaneously trying to practice peace.

I did some stillness about this and what I got was that you can't really do
both, it is not possible to preach and practice peace while at the same time
arming yourself and preparing for war because we are creating the paradigm
in which we are to function and if we create the paradigm that we are
preparing to do battle, expecting it, fearing it, then we literally create
the paradigm for it to exist. So, as Jesus said, "Those who live by the
sword will die by the sword." That is the paradigm they have chosen to
function in.

For some time I have realized that this is not my path. Therefore I have not
prepared for war, I don't hoard guns and ammunition. People say I'm not
prepared and I will get caught unaware when struggle comes. I took that into
stillness and I got that we are creating our future by what we will allow in
our paradigm and what we prepare for. If we prepare for peace and peace is
all we allow in our own paradigm, then that is all we can have in our
paradigm whereas if we hoard guns and ammunition we are inviting and
creating the very scenario of having to use those guns and ammunition.

Last night I took the Urantia Book and it flopped open the way it does when
in need, opened to the last Wednesday the Master has free in His life. He
was about to be arrested but wanted to spend one final day on the mountain
by himself. His apostles warned Him of the dangers and said to take them,
"we are girded with swords and will defend you." He said, you still don't
get it. I am in no need of defense. He said, if you pull your swords they
will kill you all. Don't do that he said, but they were too used to the old
ways and went ahead with the plans to arm themselves.

I realized that I can create my future by not bringing into my paradigm the
need to draw my "sword." We can't outgun anybody, no one wins in that game.
It is just an instinctual reaction from a million years of our ancestors
fighting and fighting trying to deal with life's conflicts in a very violent
and inefficient way. At some point that cycle has to stop, and so I decided
it stops with me. I decided I will not take up arms and create the paradigm
where arms will be part of the equation that happens in my life. I may
suffer the consequences as a result but if someone is going to come out here
and draw a weapon on me and demand food I will give them food and the next
thing and there will be no conflict because I will not shoot my brother
trying to defend my rice.

To me it seems so crystal clear but I realize it is a quantum leap for
mankind to lay down their swords and not pick them up. But I have already
projected myself into the future of that reality. I do it even now and
invite you to see that is how we get to the change we can see in our minds
eye. To see our ideal vision of self is to project ourselves there into a
paradigm where violence won't be a part of it, where struggle will not be
solved by furthering it. In the worst case scenario, if someone is going to
come out here and kill someone who is going to offer them rice then so be
it. I will go that way with honor but I will not take up arms and I will not
kill desperate people.

I wanted to share that because this apparently is a profoundly different
approach than I'm hearing. I just want to put that out there. Remember,
thought, word and deed. I have had the thought, I expressed my words and
intend to do the deed. Even if light and life and ideals are not present
everywhere on the planet, they can be present in our immediate presence if
we choose them. That is how we seed the waters, that is how we become the
yeast in the loaf, is to live the reality we would choose even before it is
here. Even before it exists on a wholesale level we can choose it, we can
start it, we can begin it.

Thank you for allowing me to share that today.

Comment: Mark, not to be an adversary on this, but since this seems to be
the tenor of tonight's lesson I would like to interject this and hopefully
get an answer.

1. A few sentences from the Urantia Book......."all the early peace tribes
were slaughtered"..
2. Michael's statement that if you determine that a mortal is not a brother
you may use any force necessary to deter the aggressor regardless of the
consequences to the offender ...or something like that...?
3. In our discussion the other day, you mentioned that you would lay down
your life if anything threatened your family.

I see these as valid points and maybe we could add this to the mix and get
an answer on that.

Mark: I did truthfully say that and will not hesitate to lay down my life
for any member of my family who is in unnecessary jeopardy or harm. I guess
my model is Jesus' refusal to defend Himself but others did not hesitate to
jump in and defend Jesus. If I saw that someone was abusing my family then I
would certainly do anything in my power to cease and desist that activity.
As for myself I'm not willing to go to extreme lengths to prepare for such a
battle. If death is the worst that could happen I would rather go out with
the honor of trying to live an ideal life rather than (trying to) defend
myself and go down in a hail of gunfire.

That said, it is a very idealistic thing to say with no threat in my face, I
admit. It seems to be in direct conflict with my prior statements.

Comment: Self defense is something worth considering. If you have to defend
a member of your family a son or daughter or a wife who is in danger, under
threat or attack, what do you defend them with? I think the position you
have taken is a noble one and I think there is no hard and fast rule to it.
It depends on the spirit with which people take up arms. I have thought
about it, going and getting a gun and take training classes. I spoke with a
friend about it but I must consider that attitude or spirit behind the
arming of myself.

Some people buy guns with hatred in mind, that is a different scenario. If
you buy a gun for defensive purposes, that is a different intention and
scenario.

Mark: I can't help but think that if you embrace the buying and training of
the use of the sword, you are opening that paradigm into your life. Noble
self-defense or righteous holy wars; you still embrace that same paradigm of
the use of the sword as the way to resolve conflict. So the question might
be : Is there a proper attitude to have when girding yourself with a sword?
I suppose it is how and where you live. If you cannot survive in the culture
you live in without the sword, well that is the case.

That is what we're trying to find out right now. Can we get along without
war? Can we get along without armed conflict or are we always going to fall
back into that as the ultimate resolution of all conflict. I am trying to
construct light and life but maybe I'm too far "out there" because we're
still surrounded by wars and folks with evil intentions towards each other.
I realized I must be functioning on a different plane and we have a long way
to go.

Please join me in focusing our collective intention which appears to be one
of the most powerful forces in all the universe.

Prayer: Divine Parents, once again we come to fellowship with you in this
hour. We thank you for the many gifts of grace which you have brought to us
including the gift of Michael who has not only created us and the life that
we live on this world, but arrived here to be one of us and to show us how
human beings can choose ideals even when they are not present currently in
his own life and circumstance. He provided us with such an incredible
inspirational example to try to live by. He advised us of the way of
choosing the higher and higher principles over the lower and baser aspects
of this life. Even now these two thousand years later we still as a culture
and as individuals are trying to follow in His footsteps and to simply do as
He was able to do in one short lifetime. Let us all strive to be the lad
John Mark who would hold on to the basket and would follow the Master
wherever He would lead in innocence and in trust. Let us simply take the
Master's word and follow Him regardless of the current condition we find
ourselves in at any given time. Help us to hold steadfastly to the basket
that the Master holds the other end of. Thank you.

The Voice: It is my honor to greet you once again, I am this ones Inner
Presence here to respect your invitation and to respond to your request to
join you in conversation about some very basic principles which have been
discussed. It takes a brave individual to stand firm in alignment with their
ideals against the great tide of conventional wisdom, the "knowledge" of the
times and the accepted approach of the family of man. Certain individuals
have vision or insight as to a different way and they at first may stand
alone in their conviction and many an individual who goes this route is
derailed from this original intention by virtue of the overwhelming pressure
from the other members of the tribe or family or country or planet.

If they are not [stolid] and brave to stand up against this strong tide,
they are simply washed away with the swelling of the tone of collective
awareness but deep down inside they may know of a certainty that their
vision of an ideal state was in fact true and genuine albeit not present in
their immediate experience. In a very real way, individuals transcend time
when they consider a more ideal state, a better approach, a more loving and
just process. They may project themselves down this timeline to a place
where thought has evolved and consciousness has been raised and these ideal
visions and principles may then exist.

But every now and then some brave individual stands firm against the tide
and says, I see a new and different way and although it is not here, I can
see it in my mind's eye. I can project myself to this place and I have this
vision which I will not let go of. When enough people share such strength
and vision they form great piers around which the tides may come and go but
their ideals will remain firmly rooted in the dimension which the visionary
resides in. And many times, time must pass before collectively mankind can
look back and see that these states that were considered which were just
visions and ideals are coming closer to reality and may even come to pass in
their own lifetime experience.

It is so very easy to recoil from new thoughts and the expression of ideals
as being too far afield or too unattainable and to simply drop them because
they seem hard to uphold because you are upholding a dream, you are
upholding a vision, but many times this is the only way that a vision or a
dream can be brought into what you call the real world, your immediate
environment. If there were no visionaries, if there were no dreamers, if
there were no Einstein's, no Michaelangelo's, your race would indeed move
forward at a much slower pace.

I encourage you all to consider the potential that within you lies a
visionary, one who can travel out in front of where you reside currently and
go ahead down the avenue of attainment and see what lies ahead and see what
glorious achievements will be chosen in a time when it is more appropriate
and seize on these visions and these ideals and realize that the only thing
that stands between where you are right now and that state that you can
foresee is your embrace of it for you need not wait for all your brothers
and sisters on your world to catch up with you. You may be at any stage of
evolution and development that you choose. It is not required for you to
wait for the entire class to catch up with your vision. It is only required
that you hold firmly to it.

Go out beyond your current dimension and see, visualize the reality that is
higher and better, the one that you would choose if it only existed and then
choose it, and it exists. It is truly that simple. It may exist at first
only for you but if you choose it and you embrace it and you live it and you
believe it, you have made it real even in your time on your world. Don't
wait for another to bring you an ideal for you to collectively rally around.
Be the one in the crowd who is the point person going out on the fringes and
look for the new way. Find it, it is there, it is available to be chosen.
Choose it and bring it back to the others in the form of your changed life
and the conviction that you have about that which you have found. Your Inner
Guide will help you to discern that what you find is appropriate for your
path, for your state of ascension and then be fearless and grab that which
you can foresee in this state of exploration.

When you seize this ideal and adopt it as your own, you transform potential
into actual and as you have been told, like attracts like in this universe
and more will be gathered unto what is good and is righteous. So when you
choose the righteous ideal and you adopt it and you live it and you
represent it then more will be gathered unto you and others will see that
what you have done is to bring into this dimension something from a future
state of awareness or consciousness, and they will respond to your vision as
you are strong enough to stand firm and represent the ideal that you can
discover, choose and manifest a state of being not yet represented in common
experience by a shere act of your willful intention.

It may be a very small step that you take and just deciding you will change
an action in your lives, a behavior, a thought pattern for the better and
your decision to do that will have a ripple affect around you and eventually
your deciding to make alternate choices will have a ripple effect and over
time could become what you call "conventional wisdom" among all. You have a
principle you discussed called the 100th monkey syndrome where at first
concepts are unknown to any of the members and then slowly a few adopt
certain concepts. These few gather more to themselves until many adopt these
concepts and at a certain tipping point, a certain critical level, the
concepts which were known to a single individual or a few individuals,
become widely known to all.

This phenomenon may be used to offer your contribution to the thought stream
of humanity and they will gather more who recognize the validity of this
contribution and more and more will sign on to these concepts, this ideal
until there will be a reaching of a tipping point and one day all will
embrace the validity of what started out as a lone concept, even the
identification of an as yet to be embraced ideal.

I would also speak to the thought stream of the value of choosing and
therefore creating the paradigm in which you would function in this life. I
call you to witness that individuals surround themselves with aspects in
their environment and these aspects of their choosing are then continually
represented in their life experience. If one has the mindset that they are
the victim of constant illness then you will witness that they are
continually a victim of constant illness. Likewise you have witnessed ones
who are the pillars of health no matter what, even if they are affected by
illness, it does not impinge on their life in anywhere near the same fashion
because they have adopted a different paradigm which dictates to them that
illness takes a different place in their set of circumstance and reality.

Likewise you see individuals who are constantly grappling with the same
issues over and over again; people cannot find the right spouses or partners
and continually choose the same wrong ones over and over again. They have
created this paradigm and this belief system which then dictates the
paradigm back to them as it is repeated over and over again. At some point
most individuals on your world are so completely encapsulated in the
paradigm that they have created that they can experience little else that is
outside of this paradigm. They have conditioned their lives and their
thought patterns to create and re-create over and over again very similar
circumstance so that they literally expect that it will happen again and it
is no surprise when it happens again.

If this phenomenon is true, and I call you to witness it is observable
phenomenon, then it becomes very important to monitor and closely examine
your choices and thought patterns that keep you fixed in your individual
paradigm. As was mentioned earlier, if you bring the mindset of battle and
war and struggle and strife as part of your paradigm, then you may expect to
have, as part of your paradigm, battle and struggle and war and conflict. If
you create for yourself an alternate paradigm where you do not embrace those
aspects but rather replace them with a different set of your choosing, then
you literally crowd out the potential for these things which are now outside
of your new paradigm to influence you. There simply is no place for them in
this new arena that you have created for yourself.

It is possible and it is encouraged for you to completely reorganize and
restructure your parlor if you will, your arena of awareness where you will
actively and with intention, clean house of things which you do not wish to
be part of your paradigm which are not serviceable to you in your true goal
of ascension, growth and increasing awareness. As you clean house you make
room for things which are serviceable to you in the higher pursuit, thought
patterns which are conducive to your goal of peace, love, truth, beauty and
goodness. If you engage in this pursuit of redefining your arena, you can in
fact change everything about your life because your outside life conforms to
your internal arena, your paradigm of expectation becomes your experience.
And so if you would like your experience to change, you must first go within
and change your paradigm and your expectation and your thought pattern and
then your life has no choice but to follow suit for you have left no room in
your new arena for thought of the old ways, for circumstances which are
outmoded or outdated you have grown to understand the higher ways.

But until you actively choose to restructure this inner environment you
cannot hope to significantly alter or affect your external experiences which
are simply a reflection of this internal environment. And so, if you do not
approve of aspects of your life, then simply crowd them out. Make no room
for them in your inner environment and they cannot exist. Replace them with
higher thoughts and ideals, universe principles that are worthy of your
consideration and in this way, with no struggle, with no conflict you simply
crowd out that which you no longer will choose. It should not be a struggle,
it should not be a conflict, it should simply be the making of a new choice
which replaces an old choice, albeit an old choice which may very well be
rather firmly entrenched.

But every day when you rise it is a new potential, every hour that you awake
it is up to you to choose again. Just because something has been present in
your lives, perhaps even for a very long time, perhaps even in the lives of
many who came before you, does not mean that it is suitable and right in
your life, in this hour, in this time, with the vision that you have, with
the awareness that you possess. You must stand firm with your awareness. You
must embrace your vision and your concepts, your glimpses of better and
higher ways and bring them into this inner environment. Nurture them and
just like when you enter the dark room without a single light, it changes
everything. A single new awareness illuminates many a darkened
misconception.

I thank you for this opportunity that you provide. I cherish the chance to
commune with you in this way. Now I will honor this circumstance and step
back and allow this cherished opportunity for others. Thank you.

Monjoronson: I greet you, I am Monjoronson here as well to accept your
invitation to join you in some discussion. I think I have referred to you
and the likes of you out there who will read these words at a later date as
a scouting party, as ones who will muster of their courage and go out ahead
of the group to see what is out there and to encounter things that the
others have yet to encounter and then having the benefit of your courage and
your strength you are willing and able to bring back your observation to the
larger group and with the conviction that you have because you have
encountered it first hand for yourselves, testify to the group that they
have seen things that they have not and that you have encountered them
yourselves and even embraced them into your lives so that you speak with
some authority on these issues. You bring back your observations as one who
knows.

So it is that you are continually going out ahead of the larger group and
scouting out and finding and discovering new and at the time incredible
things and it is not as though these things that you discover are not meant
for all because you know they are. They exist for the benefit of all but
they are not yet known by the group at large, they are not yet embraced as
necessary by as many of your brothers and sisters as are necessary for the
new idea or concept to become embraced by all with the 100th human concept.

But you are excited and inspired when you see new and incredible things that
you are eager to bring back and share with the others. It is not uncommon
for you to rush back in your enthusiasm and be thwarted in your efforts to
share with the group because you discover they are not quite ready to
embrace this new truth or this new principle. They have yet to ascend to the
level where they can embrace this truth perhaps as readily as you can. Every
human being on this planet is on their own path of ascension, at their own
rate of ascension, and it is not until they are ready that it even becomes
possible for them to expand their consciousness to include principles that
are beyond their level of ascension.

Everyone must arrive at their own level of awareness and understanding in
their own time and of their own choosing and then as they are ready,
miraculously enough, the principles they are ready for are provided to them.
It may be one such as yourselves who are privileged to be in a position to
provide these principles that you have scouted out perhaps even years before
but have laid in waiting for those who were not quite ready for them yet
until they are and then they may be shared freely.

In the same way that you are not all collectively at the same place, ready
to all collectively understand the principles of rocket science, you are not
likewise all in the same place ready in awareness to embrace these loftier
universe principles either. You must be patient, tolerant and forgiving of
your sisters and brothers who are coming up to speed. Consider yourselves
privileged to have had the opportunity to scout things out ahead of one and
to know what lies out there to be discovered. Then you may use your
enthusiasm to inspire them when they are ready. But do not be discouraged
that you are all not on the same page at the same time for this is not how
it works. This planet is a gigantic one room schoolhouse where we have all
grades and all levels working together in one environment and there is no
expectation that they are on equal footing with each other but rather they
are where they need to be in their individual ascension careers.

In the one room schoolhouse it is quite common for the teachers to ask the
accomplished students to help the ones who are trying to master what they
have already mastered. This may be your privilege to be be able to minister
to those who are taking some of the very same steps that you took earlier
and accomplishing some of the very same achievements that you have mastered.
So look at this experience with the awareness that all of these levels are
necessary to be addressed and are quite appropriate for the individuals in
these particular stations. It is not that they are behind or that you are
ahead, you have simply mastered some level of achievement and they may be
mastering theirs but a college graduate is no more perfect than a third
grader. They are both exactly where they should be at their time in their
learning career and they are equally cherished and loved by their parents
and instructors.

I would draw my remarks to a close and would allow space for any
contributions or questions that might be circulating in the consciousness of
the participants.

Question: Good evening. [ Hello. ] On a somewhat different note, the prophet
Daniel, a Jew that lived over 2,000 years ago narrated an experience that is
recorded in the Bible, offered some prayers to God and he did not get the
answers immediately as far as he was concerned. Twenty one days later he had
an encounter with an angel or celestial who told him that the very moment he
prayed his prayers were answered but on the way to deliver the answer a
fallen angel of darkness, a rebellious angel hindered him or stopped him.
However he had to get help and "Michael the Prince" came and helped him to
overcome the fallen angel who was preventing him from delivering the message
to Daniel.

1. Was this prince Christ Michael or an archangel Michael?

2. What power does a fallen angel have to hinder a godly, righteous true and
noble angel of light in carrying out his function? I would appreciate your
comments on these, thank you.

Monjoronson: My friend you refer to a time in your planetary history that
was most tumultuous. You have heard that there was a great war in the
universe between the forces of goodness and the forces of darkness. It is
quite literally true that there was a great period in your worlds history
that because of the underlying respect for the sovereignty of free will
choice, much was allowed to transpire that eventuated the manifestation of
large amounts of contrast. There were in fact, malevolent beings who were
choosing to experiment and manifest in ways that were, as you refer to them,
ungodly.

This was an act of supreme love. I understand that it may be very difficult
for you to view that in the proper context but that is the paradigm that
existed. Yes, Michael was aware and had ultimate ability to control any and
all aspects of this rebellion and its manifestations but through a supreme
act of love, He routinely chose to allow free will choice to remain
sovereign and to not usurp the individuals right to make their own free will
choices, even one that would be fairly easily considered ungodly.

I must make the point that such is not the case at this time, that it is no
longer allowed that rebel forces may infringe their will upon individuals on
this planet at this time. Michael did in fact put an end to these potentials
and an age closed in which such potentials were present on this world. This
will be seen in context as you ....this world to be the supreme gesture of
love that it was but from the individuals perspective who lived in these
times it seemed evil and cruel at times to allow these spiritual beings to
manifest their choices in such a way.

But I assure you, Michael's plan encompassed all, the wrongdoers and the
ones who were wronged and all will be turned to the right by maintaining His
posture of unconditional supreme love. In a very real way, Michael was
projecting His ideal that love would reign supreme, even in advance of its
arrival in time and space. In a very real example as in the earlier
discussion here, Michael held firm to His ideal that this posture of
maintaining love even in the face of apparent wrongdoing and transgression,
would in the end be the right thing to do.

In maintaining His posture He has set the supreme example for all of us and
we will all grow to see that His commitment to this ideal, to this supreme
principle, will in fact arrive one day, even in time and space. Although
from any one individual perspective it may be claimed that it is not here,
not now, Michael has chosen it and He is representing it and more and more
of His children are choosing it and so one day there will be the same
collective acceptance of this grand principle and He will have served as an
example for all who come after Him.

"Fear not," is what the Master said and I promote this ideal even now in
this moment. Fear not that you can go too wrong or be too far afield of
where you should be. Only believe, trust and have faith and most certainly
those things which may be only in your minds eye or in your spiritual
awareness may be made real even in time and space if you will choose them
and stand firm with your conviction. Thank you for your question.

Comment: I thank you for your response. The second question I had, was the
prince Daniel referred to Michael or the archangel Michael?

Monjoronson: The Michael that I refer to is your Master Michael, your Father
Michael, your brother Michael. This personality or presence has been
referenced by many many names throughout history and in the stricktest
analysis, it is not altogether important which name is used in the attempt
to identify this overarching presence but I have referred to Him in this
hour as your Master Michael, your Father, your Brother.

I would now like to take this opportunity to close this meeting with a
contribution from another at this time. I thank you for your steadfast
attention to my words and these lessons. I hope they are fruitful for you as
you venture out and scout around for more to bring back into your
consciousness. Thank you.

Light: Hello, I have been granted a seat at the table as well, I am Light. I
come to offer a few more words on the character of light and its effect on
the darkness. During much of the human life, it may seem as though you are
fumbling around trying to find your way. You reach out in all directions and
try to make sense of your experience and it may seem as though you are
reaching out in darkness many times. Then comes along some glimmer of light,
someone cracks the door open, someone lights the candle, someone flips the
light switch and at once, everything that seemed so uncertain and unknown
becomes illuminated, even by the smallest rays of light.

You will notice that your apprehension and uncertainty about being without
the light is immediately dissipated and a sense of comfort and calm may wash
over you because things have been illuminated for you and you are no longer
groping in the darkness. Each one of you may be this turning on of the light
in anothers room of darkness. They may be seeking and searching for the
light switch or the matches or the door to crack open and you by your very
presence may enter into their space and provide the soft glow of a
nightlight. In so doing you bring them peace and calm and they may then
relax into their experience.

The introduction of even the smallest light effortlessly and easily washes
away the doubts and uncertainty and provides one with their bearings so that
they can relax into their environment and be able to see their way to
navigate through their experience. Bring them this light into their darkened
world without struggle, without forcing but rather as a gentle gift that you
are capable of providing. Allow them to navigate their own experience and
come to you if they desire to know where you get your illumination. Let this
be your privilege. Thank you and good night to all, farewell.







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