[tmtranscripts] Rio Rancho NM TeaM 01-04-04

Gerdean O Bowen zooidodell at juno.com
Tue Jan 6 21:39:34 PST 2004


DATE: January 4, 2003
LOCATION: Rio Rancho, New Mexico
Dorenda & Willie’s Abode
TEACHERS: TOMAS & ANATOLIA
TOPICS: The Human Heart & Infinite Love
Universal Mind & The Intuitive Self
Q & A: Paradigms & Oxymorons
"Where am I?"
The Relativity of Our Being
T/Rs: Gerdean and Matthew
MUSIC: Elena on Piano: "Go Tell it on the Mountain"
PRAYER: Matthew: Let us place ourselves in the presence of Jesus, the
Christ.
Master Teacher,
We place ourselves before you, in reunion with our family and friends, as
we continue once again in the new year after the holiday season that has
been full of good cheer, well-wishing, and gift giving and receiving, and
we are most grateful most of all for the gift you gave of yourself, and
the teachings that will last for all time and beyond, for the unity of
the formative body that you have formed, that we are each cells and part
of, for which we are grateful.
We ask for the Teachers that you choose today, for our betterment and
on-going expansion into the life of spirit, both now and forevermore, and
for all of the intentions of our hearts and our minds that you are aware
of, of each individual who is here and those who are not here, which is
the rest of creation, we are forever grateful.
Amen.
TOMAS: Glad tidings we bring. This is Tomas, Anatolia, and Friends in the
spirit realm, come to greet you in this wholesome gathering of cheerful
hearts in wondrous praise of that which satisfies all our longings.
Matthew: Welcome.
TOMAS: Welcome, indeed, to you as well, for we would have no class were
it not for your willing ears ~ your will ~ which complies to the leading
that your spirit gives you and which seeks to know more of God and your
place in the universe.
What adventures and experiences lie ahead for us this upcoming year will
depend much on your ability to grow with the points of view which are
purposively pointed to you in hopes of whetting your appetite and
stimulating your personal experiential growth in these realities which we
love to bring.
We gather again in our trusted configuration of long-standing, for the
security it provides in the connection with the relationship with other
beings in the universe, other loving beings who seek to know more of that
love and what that love will be able to provide for the Master and the
goals of eternity.
Today I would like to talk with you about love, in particular, that love
which you understand as a human frame of reference, but in the discussion
of love in any sense, I would be derelict in my duties if I were to in
any way disregard the level of love which springs from the divine Source
of all love. And so, let us commence.
The Catholic religion enjoys depicting Jesus with a pronounced heart,
indeed, a valentine upon his chest, radiating the passion for which he
lived and died -- the divine love which is from our Source, and to which
you all aspire, inasmuch as this divine love is that for which you
hunger. But the human heart, which also seeks to know and experience
love, is fallible ~ and thus what you perceive as love may be merely the
personal will-seeking nature of the human.
The scriptures point out that the human heart is deceptive, and so those
who are fed scripture will take this to mean they cannot trust their own
perception of love for it is fallible ~ so fallible, in fact, it may well
be regarded as, rather, prideful. This is part of the confusion you
experience here in terms of what love is.
And what about love is there that leads you on, often into trouble, and
yet you persist in seeking its manifestation in your own being?
The key to comprehending the nature of the Christed heart, as compared to
the human heart is to be found in the fact of rebirth. This surrendering
of the human will to the divine will is the key to understanding the
nature of your own heart.
And, while spiritual rebirth may be your God-given inheritance, it is
also true that for you to advance in the kingdom, it is required that you
choose which way to go whenever the option is put before you to choose to
do the divine will or the human will.
There are those who feel that when they have been reborn they are
finished. They have experienced Soul Birth and have no more work to do.
In the context of my role with you as your teacher, I cannot conscript
that theory for there is too much work to be done, too much that needs to
be implanted and experientially realized toward that divine end and that
disallows my acceptance of you as already having attained your pinnacle
of the heart’s delight as we yearn to know it.
Thus, relativity, once again, is imperative in assessing the methods by
which individuals pursue their course of divine providence.
How is it that the human heart can be deceptive and yet we so often
admonish you to follow your heart; we tell you that your heart is good
and that to follow your heart’s delight will lead you to greater
awareness of the nature of God?
The challenge for you individually is to ascertain the heart that is
ruling your thinking at any given moment, for in this phase of Correcting
Time, you will be consistently and continually modifying and changing the
reference point of your heart, depending upon how well you have devoted
yourself to the divine heart, as compared to the human heart.
I will take you to the mind of a child, who says, "But I want it. Why
can’t I have it? There’s nothing wrong with me having it." And this child
is genuine and sincere. From that childlike perspective it would be cruel
to deprive her of that which her heart yearns for, be it a doll, an
opportunity to stay up past bedtime, a visit to a favorite relative or to
Disneyland. Whatever this child yearns for and is sincere about, she puts
it forth in a plaintive note that would leave a parent to wonder why,
indeed, would the child not be given its heart’s desire.
One of the tests of the human experience is having the heart broken again
and again, feeling disappointment because the heart’s desires were not
met, were thwarted, were contradicted. And so even as an adult, even as
an ascending son or daughter, it is possible for that childlike nature in
you to wail and lament, "But why can’t I have it?" when the truth is, you
have it all! What you are saying is, "I want to keep it. I want to
control it. I want it to fulfil my idea of who I am. I want that other
person to replete me ~ complete me," as if that yearning was the same
prayerful yearning you would utilize when you talk to God about what his
will is for you.
You who have attained a certain degree of spiritual adulthood in your
experiential life’s lessons are often able now to appreciate the
immaturity of your fellows when you see and hear them coming from a
sincere place of the human heart. What you must remember is, these beings
are all given free will and you have no authority to rule or reverse the
free will of another
even though, many times, the timid will implore
their fellows to align themselves with that will which will make the most
sense, or which will provide the greatest bounty for all
even when the
still, small voice inside will tell you it is the human heart, a human
want, ruling your behavior and not the divine heart, from a perspective
of the divine will.
This is the experiential field, and within the experiential field, anyone
who has consciousness of any aspect of love is entitled to use it or
abuse it because of free will, but those of you who are becoming deepened
in walking the path of the divine will have within you a renewed
understanding of what the heart of God is and how it works with you and
through you to enhance and direct the desires of those whose heart is
free to choose evil only because of its own ignorance.
Speaking to you as God-conscious men and women is not any guarantee that
you will not misconstrue my words because of your individual standing in
these schools. Thus, when you find yourself asking, "but why can’t I have
it my way?" choose to see your human longings as a mortal, an
individualized, reflection of the love of Paradise for you, and see if
you can reason the difference. If you have an eternal point of view, or a
far-reaching perspective, it will help you see the value of having your
human heart broken because in this way you will be redirected into the
realms of greater truth, beauty and goodness which will reveal the divine
heart of God as that which you truly seek and will find because of your
desire to become one with Him, in all things and with all your heart.
Let me conclude my lecture material for this, our inaugural gathering of
the New Year, and pass the baton to my co-worker.
ANATOLIA: Greetings, friends, fellows, and those who share the same life
and breath as we do. I, Anatolia, am grateful to be with you once again
and more so eager to entertain a New Year of growth and gratitude with
you, my fellow students.
It is my pleasure to be with you once again. This is a wonderful
opportunity for learning ~ both personal, group and universal truths.
I, as a teacher, intend to present to you the best of my understanding
that can be presented to you in coherent means for your growth and
development. It is my intention, as one who is entrusted with the
thoughtful minds and ears of those present, much like that of a teacher
who is given the responsibility to present lessons to a class of learners
at whatever level, for the various levels of learning and understanding
are truly graduated. That is, there are stepping stones of openness and
understanding. For example, the early elementary years are minds that are
open to everything that is, but must be measured and given in the
incremental steps that will make future learning possible. That is the
essence of the early presentation.
Later, it becomes more graduated opportunity for directing the young mind
toward areas of growth and development, which have both meaningful
representation in the universal mind as well as particular expression in
the world of work. It is this universal mind openness that we are
entrusted with, for the Universal Mind is that mind of Spirit, that which
allows or enables the intuitive self to have expression and meaning as
well as value. For it is this realm that is the highest realm of
development.
It is this realm that is of challenge, both within your culture as well
as other cultures throughout the world, even those that are dedicated
toward a predominance of religious expression, that is those cultures
which are predominantly religious by nature are experiencing challenges
to that which is universal mind oriented and more so a threat to the
popular culture’s interference in the everyday mindset, hence,
conservative movements of religiosity, which have been on the increase
throughout the world in general.
It is this propensity toward the tightening down of religious principles
that are primarily threats toward that which previous generations had
been able to maintain without much interference.
It is this universal mind that is the field of activity for which we find
ourselves committed and hopefully you, too, find yourselves challenged
sufficiently to develop this within your own framework as well as perhaps
that which can be developed for expression within the broader community.
It is our hope and aim that this universal mind development can be
heightened and expressed and more directly stimulated in this next year
and thereafter, for this is the realm of activity that will accompany you
in your onward path toward ascension.
I encourage each of you to develop this sense within yourself, as it is
this universal mindal faculty that is what you will take with you. There
is no baggage; there is no preparation, only that which is mind and
spirit and eternal by nature. It is this eternal sense of self that I
wish to encourage and to stimulate as we continue in our lessons as
students of our Master Teacher and our Heavenly Parents.
Without further development of themes or particular lessons, is there any
question as to what I have spoken of thus far, that anyone has currently?
Elena: Actually, I did have a couple of questions, but for some reason my
mind has gone totally blank, now that you asked that.
Gerdean: It’s hard to go from the superconscious mind to the conscious
mind.
Elena: I was glad that you were talking about the different levels of
development, and I was interested in Tomas’ discussions, as well. In
fact, actually, when he said that we might misconstrue what he was saying
depending on the different levels that we were currently at, and then
when you started talking about the different levels of development, I was
saying, "Oh, good, she is going into this thing" and I did have a
question about it, but I don’t remember what it was. But I’m sorry I
can’t go further with that question because I’m blank.
Matthew: Okay, maybe it was because it was a big giant step from
elementary minds to the universal mind all of a sudden. There wasn’t much
in between.
Elena: Maybe so. I don’t know why that is. I’m totally blank. I don’t
even remember now what I was going to ask.
Gerdean: It shouldn’t be that big of a huge leap for Universal Mind as
compared to Universal Heart. What we’re being encouraged to look at, it
seems, is that there is a huge range of reality manifestation - all the
way from the universal approach to the minutia of personal experience of
a material nature.
Elena: Yeah, that, and then combined with a deceptive heart. I was trying
to get all those into

Gerdean: If that parallel were to hold true, then, it would stand to
reason that the more provincial way of thought would be/could be
paralleled to the little perspective of the heart. It’s like your vision
doesn’t go out very far. It’s not universal, by comparison, if I can see
an analogy in the two lessons. I enjoyed the idea of Universal Mind.
Elena: Yeah, I was reassured by that.
Gerdean: I wouldn’t mind hearing more about Universal Mind but I think I
heard her say that she didn’t want to go into that right at this point.
Elena: Well, until I can phrase a better question, I will be quiet, but I
appreciated the help, you guys.
ANATOLIA: Therefore, the Universal Mind is a realm which we undertake as
this is the one uniting force and the realm in which particular cultural
experience indicates that this was the common ground, the inalienable
right, the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness the
forefathers (not necessarily masculine preference intended) had in mind.
For what is the battleground, per se, in the separation of church and
state is, in fact, this area that the forefathers had cordoned off as a
no-man’s land. Unaddressed, ambiguous, and left to interpretation.
There are scholarly minds that could address this from any number of
viewpoints; nevertheless, I invite for our future discussion,
considerations that humanity has to deal with. The next level of
evolutionary thrust forward lies within this area, for technology (as may
already be apparent) can exceed one’s capability to appreciate, encounter
and regulate its just pursuit as administration.
The realm of mind and the spirit, which predetermines a mind-set, is the
pioneer domain that needs to be addressed.
And therefore, I invite our consideration of these topics in this new
year, for as each of you may have in your own mind currently (as this
topic is presented) innumerable examples of where the work needs to begin
and what needs to be accomplished. For may I say, the dimensions which
your Master Teacher and Savior presented to you are just now being
entertained, for what was presented in the past thousand plus years had
been more institutional than it had been personal. It had been more
structural than it had been developmental.
The next realm of evolutionary advancement lies within this realm of
universal relationship and ones role in it individually and collectively.

Therefore, the statement earlier of postponing this discussion may be
evident and deserves further development as we continue in our pursuits
of truth, beauty and goodness.
If there is nothing else at the moment, I wish you peaceful and
purposeful development, and pursuit of your goals, both individually and
collectively - in this new year - and to remember that it is not all work
but inclusiveness with your role in it, of all that is, so as to
entertain pure relaxation and pure happiness as well as pure
understanding of all of those efforts which you undertake.
Peace be with you until we meet again.
Class: Thank you, Anatolia.
TOMAS: Would you like to recess for a minute before we discourse? Let us
take a five-minute recess, just to get your consciousness focused
sufficiently that we could discourse if we chose to.
Elena: I felt about five different things on that little kid route. "Why
can’t I have it?"
Thoroah: Well, he treats us more as though we were graduate students, and
a lot of the things that he talks about are more universal in nature, for
people who happen to read these things, because not everybody is at the
same level. Some people know that they are beginners in this awareness,
new awareness. They are new to it, and so they’re at a level of
understanding, and that’s basically all that level stuff is, is a level
of understanding.
We’re all at our own level of understanding, and none of us are at the
same level, and there is an eternity of understanding to gain, so our
problem is, we speculate where we are on that level spectrum. We think,
"Oh, I must be here" or maybe we think, "We’re great. We’re up here." And
we don’t know crap about where we are.
Elena: I know. That’s true. And then you think about the disciples, and
they were constantly jockeying around, wanting to know where they were.
Okay, well, am I going to be on the right hand or am I
? Am I a peer
here? And I don’t know where the hell I am, either. So, there’s that, and

Thoroah: We compare ourselves to each other. That’s the problem.
Elena: Yeah, but
I don’t know about you guys, but at the beginning of a
year
this year is difficult for me, but most of them are, too
you
think, "Well, you’ve had all the hoopla, the Christmas thing," and then
again, it’s "Where am I?" I mean, after all this wonderful holiday and
it’s been terrific and then you think, "Where the hell am I?" I have NO
clue! I mean, please help. Tell me: "You are here!" And then where do I
go? Just point me in a direction from here because that’s what I need.
That’s what I feel like. Okay. That’s my question. Where am I and which
direction should I go in?
Men-O-Pah: I think in all probability you will be asking yourself that
question for a long time. Forever, probably.
Elena: Where the hell am I?
Men-O-Pah: Where the hell am I?
Matthew: Well, that’s encouraging, coming from you, Men-O-Pah.
Men-O-Pah: Incidentally, there are a couple of words that we use
occasionally, and Tomas uses. One especially. The word "paradigm". And it
came up this morning in our Sunday School. And then the word "oxymoron."
So you can open your mouth and tell me what you think it means.
Gerdean: "Paradigm" – I can only equate that to a hologram. It’s like a
hologram of reality. It’s like, the way that you can see it.
Men-O-Pah: Is it our perception of what life is? The big picture of what
it is?
Thoroah: Not exactly. A paradigm is like a structure. You’re operating
within a paradigm. Our society is a paradigm.
Matthew: Like an MO.
Thoroah: Yeah. We do things-- It’s like -- a culture is a paradigm. It
creates a reality we operate in. We know when we step over the line in
our paradigm. You know. So a paradigm is a way of thinking. Okay?
Gerdean: It’s a group mind-set.
Thoroah: We have a different paradigm, we live in a different paradigm
than they do in China. It’s no different, but we live in a different
paradigm. We think about things differently than they think about them.
And so we’re living in different paradigms. As we grow, our paradigm
changes. They talk about a new paradigm; that means a new way of
thinking. So they have new parameters to the way we think. The box gets
changed. We get bigger boxes.
And then the oxymoron is like
they say it’s an oxymoron to say
"government intelligence."
Men-O-Pah: (Chortling.) Yeah.
Thoroah: That’s an oxymoron. "Military intelligence" is what they usually
use. That’s an oxymoron.
Gerdean: Or "marital bliss". How can you have the two together?
Thoroah: It’s a contradiction within

Men-O-Pah: Are oxymorons and paradoxes similar?
Group: Yeah.
Esmarelda: Gerdean, did you say hologram?
Gerdean: Yeah.
Esmarelda: At first I thought you said, "A hole in the ground."
Gerdean: No. (Group laughter) Well, they can be!
Men-O-Pah: We’ve moved up a ways. Just don’t ask me how far up.
Thoroah: Well, we’re on the floor. The floor of the ocean, the floor of
the forest, the floor of the jungle. You know.
Gerdean: We have our feet on the ground.
Elena: Yeah, but then the paradigm changes.
Thoroah: It’s the spiritual mind working with the material mind that
creates our soul, basically, and that’s how we have our spiritual mind
and our material mind and we’re both working on it.
I was writing to a friend of mine who had a heart-breaking situation with
his girlfriend, and because he was broken-hearted, I told him, "What you
had was you had your mind’s heart broken. Your mind had pictured how it
was going to be and your mind’s heart was set on that, and when that
didn’t work out, your mind’s heart was broken. But your "heart of hearts"
would have been able to explain it to you a little better, and your
"heart of heart" is what’s explaining it to you now, why it happened. And
when we see through our heart’s heart, that is where we are on key. When
we see through our mind’s heart, it can trick us because our mind doesn’t
know yet, everything. Our mind has this ego boundary.
Elena: Well, let’s get back to Tomas’ deceptive heart deal. What did you
guys get out of Tomas’ deceptive thing?
Thoroah: Well, the human heart is deceptive. That’s kind of what I was
trying to tell my friend. I made the analogy that it was his mind’s
heart. We confuse the heart. We confuse what the heart is. We have this
picture of what the heart is sitting on our chest like a valentine.
Esmarelda: Tomas said that, at the very beginning, about the valentine.
Thoroah: But our mind does not let us think through our heart. Our mind
has one idea; our heart has another idea. Our heart has its own mind! And
our heart’s mind – our "heart of hearts" is the mind we need to listen
to. Our mind has a heart of its own and it’s more deceptive because we
intellectualize everything. We think we can figure it out. And we’ve got
it figured out and we’ve got our hands on it, so we’ve got it, and when
it doesn’t happen that way, our heart is broken, but it’s

euphamistically speaking
the heart of our mind that’s really broken.
Our expectations get broken. And that’s what’s deceptive. I don’t think
he means it’s deceptive in that we’re going to be led down some garden
path and be working for some evil cause or anything like that. I think we
just get disappointed and heart-broken because of our heart deceiving us,
in what we think is our heart telling us what to do. That’s my perception
of it.
Elena: Is our recess over yet?
Paula: Just briefly. Men-O-Pah and I were talking earlier about this word
"paradigm" trying to figure out what it could be. It seemed that the way
it was used, there could be any number of paradigms. And I suggested that
200 years ago the paradigm was that women did not express themselves in
public. They stayed quiet. But the paradigm has changed. It’s come to
fruition that way, and today women can express themselves in any number
of ways.
Men-O-Pah: Well, the old paradigm was more or less fundamental, and
Bible- based, probably, and you know we pretty much believed those
precepts. But as the years go by, our notion of that has changed. For
instance -- I believe these are the words of Jesus: he talks about two
roads. One way, a large amount of people are headed toward destruction,
and on the narrow road there’s just a few people on that. And we’re
saying, "What is it Lord, that we have to do to be on that narrow road?"
So there it is again, you see? The paradigm shift.
But my own thinking is this: Whatever God did, he did it perfectly. And
the Bible itself says he is not willing that any should perish. God has
said, I put a little piece of me in every one of you. That’s that God
Fragment that we speak about. And so, I don’t really think there are that
many people on that broad road of destruction.
Esmarelda: I don’t think so either.
Men-O-Pah: I’m not so sure that any will be destroyed. And I wonder how
God is going to deal with people like Saddam Hussein and Adolph Hitler
and Benito Mussolini, and others of their ilk. That really boggles my
mind. How is he going to deal with them? Of course, I don’t know.
TOMAS: This is my time to come back in and rope you back into class. I
can see we are wandering off into the fields of speculation and wonder --
which are encouraged in your social portion, for they have worth -- but
we need to keep on track in terms of getting our message said so that we
can get out of here and you can carry on about what you choose to
speculate.
This has been a great recess, because it allows you to ponder aloud to
each other what your perception of the lessons are and how they relate to
you.
The question about whether/how God is going to deal with the
personalities you mentioned, Men-O-Pah, is only good insofar as it
represents how you yourself would manage your civilization, as a
God-conscious individual, as one of the human race and one who has God
consciousness. Their eternal souls are not your business, but how they
affect your society IS, and this is the realm that Anatolia and I have
freedom to foster, for this is where the lessons of spirit make sense to
you, in terms of how you live your lives with your fellows, how these
thoughts impact your society, and how you yourselves are able to change
the paradigm of reality from what was to what will be.
You are a part of the growth of your world and these sessions we enjoy
contribute to feeding your minds with those concepts from On High which
add to the perspective that you would not have held without that farther
view that is obtained from the recognition of your place in the universe
-- not merely as a citizen here, but as a child of the universe.
As Anatolia deduced, it is not fruitful to foster the idea that your
opinions and your wills are so nebulous as to be insignificant, and
therefore uninteresting to each other.
This gets me around to your concern, Elena, that your ears hear me speak
down to you. I am not speaking down to you and saying that you are lowly.
I am saying that within the framework of a human beings themselves there
is relativity. I was not speaking, necessarily, of the hierarchy from the
finite to the infinite, but entirely within your finite realm there are,
even so, those who have learned more experiential lessons -- and even
fewer who have learned experiential lessons with their God-consciousness
impacting on those rewards of experiential living.
The fact of relativity is something to cherish and rejoice about, for it
gives you a perspective of your own existence. It allows you to realize
how far you have come as compared to how far you have yet to go. But it
is not meant to limit your opinion of yourself. Rather, it is intended to
help you learn to cherish the reality that you are and encourage you to
take upon yourself those experiential lessons which will add to your
dimension of divine reality, for in this you will develop the perspective
that will enable you to better serve in the purely material arena.
It is in the relativity that you live. There are no absolutes at your (or
even my) level of existence. It is within the relativity of things that
the conflicts occur and that the harmonies result. And the lesson for
today compliments that fact of relativity, and encourages you to delve
into that element of your existence, your individual existence, in which
you carry on with your fellows in the various configurations (and
paradigms) which humans will create en route to finding the resolution of
their own wondering about what is real and what is immaterial.
I want to thank you all for your interim commentaries. The people who
receive these transcripts are unable to appreciate, as I do, the
individual character you consistently bring to these sessions. Your
opinions, your attitudes, your feelings, indeed your heart content. And
thus, I will encourage them to be shared, if for no other reason that to
share your own self in your own growth. This is how we know we are a part
of the process, the human-becoming-divine process, and it is where the
rubber meets the road in your daily ministry, as you pass by, as you
learn and as you teach.
I am certain we did not mean to pile more on your plate today than you
were hungry for, but it is still apparent that the respite of the holiday
season from your studies of life have whet your appetite and we will make
every attempt to not disappoint you or ourselves in our investigations of
the increasing realization of that which is the universal mind and the
heart of infinite love that you will bestow upon your world in your daily
doings.
Peace be upon you until we meet again next week. Farewell.
Group: Thank you, Tomas and Anatolia.
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