[tmtranscripts] Anatolia-March 21, 2002

Donna DIngillo donnadingillo at juno.com
Tue Mar 26 20:44:09 PST 2002


ANATOLIA - SELF-FORGETFULNESS
March 21, 2002

Anatolia:  Good evening, my name is Anatolia.  I am very happy to have
this occasion to speak with you tonight.  And I appreciate Welmek's
relinquishment of his instruction this evening. But to continue in the
vein that he is pursuing with you, I wish to continue the topics of 
Happiness, and Service, and Heart Healing that have a particular outcome,
and that is one of Self-forgetfulness.  What does this term indicate to
you?  Have you thought about this; have you considered the implications
of this term?  Please take a moment or so, and go into the stillness and
ask for a fuller understanding of this term.  And then when you are
ready, I would be most interested to hear your responses.

Student:  My thoughts on this are that, it seems to me that I can only
forget my small self, my selfish self.  But another part of me I can't
forget in the sense that it's what I am and it's what place that I meet,
a place that I can act from, has to be a form of self-awareness.  And, so
it seems, there are two levels of self.  My small selfish self, and my
greater self.  

Anatolia:  And the smaller self, as you describe it. What does this self
do?  How is it that you are in this self, in your daily life? 

Student:  Well, part of it is a form of programming based on survival and
habits and
desires that I think will make me happy or safe, or other personal
concerns, but I don't 
think I trust all of those motivations.  

Anatolia:  And what is the other self engaged in more?  How would you
define how you move through your day in this greater sense of
self-awareness?

Student:  Well, I'd like to be able to say I have more experience with
that than I have thus far, but I think it's when I tune into a sense of
freedom and look beyond my usual petty concerns and more in-tune with the
part of me that's more highly aware of the big picture, sort of.  It's
more faith and things like that. 

Anatolia:  Thank you.  This evening, I will gather all of your comments
and synthesize
them and present a lesson.

Student:  Anatolia, I have very similar or parallel feelings as C.  I
just consider my ego,
what I'm aware of.  It is the whole me that I'm aware of, and I
understand the textbook to talk of a personality, a creation, a unique
creation of God.  And I think this is not exactly my waking conscious,
which doesn't even go twenty-four hours without lapsing. I'm a very
complex being of mind and spirit and body. I have no idea or even how I
digest the food I do.  So I kind of have this sense that my waking
conscious self that I'm aware of, attending to all the little strands;
necessarily, I have to be aware of all these things to survive.  There
are habits; there are things, good works, craftsmanship, good things. 
But I think my personality combined with my Thought Adjuster to make this
indelible record, everything I experience.  This is not old threads
flying in the breeze; this is some kind of steel cable.  

Last week when we were thinking of what caused us pain and suffering in
our life and
then what Michael could show us to get through that; I though of all the
times that all
the old losses I've had in my life.  And yet through it all something
growing.  So a lot of this is just faith and trust that this personality
is growing. 

Anatolia:  Thank you.  

Student:  I guess for me, self forgetfulness, the first word that came to
mind was surrendering, letting go of thinking that I'm just a drop of
water, but that I am part of a full ocean of water, of consciousness. 
That self-forgetfulness is, it's like it's trusting that there is a
greater self that I am a part of.  And surrendering my individual will,
which is illusionary, towards the greater will, which is the will of our
Father, and God.  Service is also involved.  I notice, when I'm absorbed
in helping another person, I have no thought for myself.  Or if I'm
listening to some really uplifting, inspirational music, I become that
music, I've no thought to myself.  So, it's when I cease to be that
droplet of water and see that I am immersed in the full ocean.

Anatolia:  Thank you.

Student:  Anatolia, I was brought up in the French Catholic tradition,
and this came up quite a bit.  And I think the meaning is less
self-examination, of meekness, a light heart, accepting the world as a
valley of a beginning.  I think it has a huge element of humility, which
is a feeling of spiritual smallness; the left hand not knowing what the
right hand is doing, is the way we heard it.  Like Jesus doing good as he
passed by, that feeling of just casually, not taking yourself quite as
importantly, yet being willing to tackle some fairly big things, taking
the self element out of it.  My daughter calls it putting the Thought
Adjuster on automatic pilot.  I guess that word surrendering is part of
it, but I think for me the pleasure of being meek, light-hearted in the
service and of the quality of being humble.  Recognizing that we are
spiritually small, but with a hunger tension still for Paradise
perfection, with the big picture in light, but not taking ourselves as
seriously.  And it does feel good; it creates a sense of worship as well.

Anatolia:  Thank you.  Thank you all for your responses and for sharing
those ideas within you that perhaps you have not yet actually voiced to
yourself.  Allow me one moment to summarize and prepare this lesson for
you.

Do you recall your exercise of the previous week, of inviting Michael and
the Mother Spirit into your heart and beginning to heal those areas of
pain and resistance within you?  This was an important undertaking that
precedes the release of the animal nature, ego hold, or should I say
strain within your mind and body that keeps you in a sense of
self-protection.  Protected selves guard what they do, how they reveal
themselves so they will not be hurt. Is this not so? The protected self
has built many layers of armor or resistance so that the difficulties of
living on this challenging world and the pain inflicted by others cannot
penetrate and affect you.  But this also has the effect of keeping you in
your state of self-induced rigid immobility, where you are so concerned
and overburdened with the idea of not being hurt that it conditions every
movement and thought that you have.

When you allow your heart to be healed, you have those places of rigid
immobility within you softened. They become more flexible so that your
posture and movement in the world becomes more fluid and expansive, and
you find yourself more open and willing to reveal more of yourself into
the world.  As this unfolds within you, this softening of the heart, you
find that you do not have to protect yourself from being hurt; you find
that there is no need to guard your sense of who you are.  You extend
yourself more into relationships with others, even to the point of
wanting to help another person overcome their own sense of
self-woundedness or self-protection.

And you have been given lessons on the idea of service, to help other
people experience this.  And so in this growing sense of openness within
you and the new strains and desires of service unfold, what happens to
the posture of immobility? What happens to the sense of self-protection? 
It is no longer there.  Well, where did it go?  You see my friends, you
forget about this, because it no longer affects you.  This is the
attitude of self-forgetfulness of which I speak tonight.  And it comes in
an ever-expansive unfolding and healing of your heart, as you no longer
feel that you must protect yourself, and you find that everything you
need to live successfully is given to you.  Every act of faith is
rewarded, and so what need is there within you of being in this posture
of self-fullness?

I will pause and ask your comments or questions now.

Student:  Anatolia, everything you say of this really rings true.  I had
a wonderful series of classes and relationships and it was called,
appropriately, "higher alignment" in which they talked about being in a
very rigid attempt to maintain a status quo.  Our fear and our past hurts
keep us in a kind of a status, a holding pattern, where are our more true
nature is what they call pioneering, which is willing to take chances and
risks.  And the thing I noticed from these classes, it was the most
wonderful thing I would like to share, and that is this forgetfulness of
self, all of a sudden, put me in a world of people.  I can't explain it
any other way, all of a sudden; just everybody was in my life.  And it
was just like gaining the whole world.  It was just wonderful!

Anatolia:  The protected self keeps the world at bay so there is no
chance or opportunity for it to be wounded.  But the self that is open,
and needs of the self are forgotten, allows the world to come in and
says, "I am here, I am your friend, I am your brother or sister and I am
here to share of myself with your, my joy, my beauty, my personality. 
Are you interested in knowing me?  If you are, how can I help you?  How
can I show you how beautiful you are?"  This is what you are finding, my
friend.  The self that is open and free is the one that can never have
too many friends or too many opportunities to reveal the loving nature of
your personality through the Father. 

And this helps the other person to experience joy and beauty and goodness
and truth and helps them see that this is their potential as well. 
Isolation does not breed social service and altruism.  Only this sense of
being less involved with what you are experiencing offers the increased
capacity to be in relationships with others that is so soul satisfying. 
You are well on your way to leaning one of the greatest lessons of the
universe.  Friendships and service go hand-in-hand in understanding how
the Father harmonizes His family into a unified group. That is not quite
the word that I would like to use, because the idea of a family is one of
such love, peace, and such sharing and camaraderie that you would never
want to be without your family.  You are at home in them.

Student:  I feel like it's not always appreciated.  Sometimes when I
offer myself to be present with people, they, if they think I'm more
aware and honest than they are sometimes they get defensive and leave me
feeling like nobody wants to accept any help from me, sometimes.  It
seems like I have difficulty finding people to share with, so I'm more
alone and even lonely sometimes.  I'm not sure how to make them feel
comfortable around me when that happens.  They feel threatened by me,
almost.

Anatolia:  Our observation of the humans on this world reveals to us that
the emotional nature is as tender as a very young child.  Think about how
easy it is to hurt the feelings of a three or four year old.  Can you
imagine this in your mind's eye now?  (Student: Yes)
And so being honest with an individual may be speaking the truth, but if
the truth does hurt their feelings, then, would they be in a position to
accept your help?  (Student:  Not likely to.)  And so the question then
becomes, "How do I offer my help to them that will not trample on their
tender feelings?"  And you as a more spiritually attuned individual now
have the opportunity to relate to them at their level, which is the level
of being of true service to an individual.  You go to them and you help
them where they are. 

I would suggest this as an exercise to prepare yourself the next time you
wish to help an individual, to spend a moment in the stillness state and
to see if you can connect with them at their level of emotional
availability.  See if you can sense where their areas of woundedness are,
so that when you speak to them, you avoid those areas.  If this is
difficult for you to sense at first, then by all means invite the
presence of Michael into your mind and say, "Father, this is your child
and you know every place within this individual where they are feeling
pain or neglect or hurt by those people who have damaged their spirit.
And so I ask you to show me where those are, so I can avoid them and
speak the words You would have me speak to be of service and to lift
them, to help them overcome their feelings of pain."  

In doing this, you never have to be concerned that you will trample on
their feelings, for Michael will deftly guide you to those ways and areas
within them that meet with what you say.  Does this help?

Student:  Yes, very much.  I've been realizing that I have part of my
nature that enjoys putting a little salt in a wound and stirring things
up that way.  It's a sometimes a little lighthearted and sometimes, I
suppose sometimes it could be seen as cruel, but just like, sometimes it
helps people to grow, to be confronted.  It doesn't always seem like
trampling on them in a way that's harmful, judging from the big picture. 
I'm trying.  It's a perverse way of trying to help, I think, so I guess I
just need to judiciously step back from that impulse and try the way.

Anatolia:  I would suggest for a time to transfer the mental image of
pouring salt into the wound into pouring honey into the wound and see
which gets better results.  (Student: Yes, Thank you.)  Do you need
further clarification on this or is this fine for now?

Student:  I think I have enough to work with for now.  Thank you. 

Student: Yes, Anatolia, this is D.  What I've been experiencing over the
past week, is the idea of surrendering myself, my small self with this
drop of water.  Surrendering that into the bigger, bigger self, or
greater self of consciousness.  And I've been watching how my mind works.
And when my mind feels contracted or stressed or anxious about something,
I tell myself to let that go and just surrender it to God, to who I am. 
And the more I do this, the more I am able to surrender, to feel this
greater self that I am, that I truly am.  And I find that if I allow
myself to experience the small self, there's fear there and anxiety and I
feel paralyzed.  So I don't want to feel that anymore.  I don't want to -
that's not who I am.  And I tell myself that this is not who I am. This
is not how God sees me or Michael sees me.  So I say to myself, just
surrender, let it go. I take a breath and just let it go and re-align
myself to the consciousness that is all around us and who I am.  And it
seem to be working, there is less stress and there's more, I feel more
real, more authentic when I am that way.  And I feel my faith and it is
growing and deepening and expanding and my trust.  I keep on hearing this
word, this little phrase in my mind, "Trust in Me.  Trust in Me."  So
that's where I'm at.

Anatolia:  This is a good place to be would you not agree? 

Student:  Very much so!  There is less tension; there is no tension.  And
I feel like as long as I stay in this place, which in reality is our
natural place, then like you say all our needs, all my needs will be met.
 All circumstances and situations will be smoothed over and taken care
of.  Because, I've reached a point where my little me can't do anymore. 
So now it's time to dive into that ocean and be a part of that.

Anatolia:  My own suggestion to your comment would be that when you
experience these instances of fear to only acknowledge to the point that
you know that they are fleeting and will soon be dissolved in the greater
infinity of who you are as a son of the most loving and compassionate and
upholding of Fathers.  The tension within you that pulls you into this
basic animal nature is still affecting you.  And it will still affect you
for some time to come and the elements of the animal nature still will
tug at you and remind you that you still have this within you.  But it is
only there as a reminder that you are still in the process of becoming
more fully human in your divine path.

If you allow this awareness to melt, as you say, in the stillness, you
will find that the moments when this returns to your awareness grow
farther and farther apart.  And what then replaces within yourself
through the workings of your Though Adjuster are the gleanings to show
the world how joyful and centered it is to have a relationship with God. 
When you are in peace and joy, you know how attractive this is for other
people to see.  And so how could they not want to approach you, and how
could you not want to share all of your love with them?  The
self-forgetfulness we advocate is of this nature, for it naturally
prevails within your human mind to seek out that which is lacking in
others and to fill it with a new whole sense of purpose and beauty. 
Allow these moments of fear to just melt away.  They do not affect you,
truly.  They are just there to remind you that you are still becoming a
true son of God, in thought, word, and deed.  

Student:  Thank you for that.  And as you were speaking, the one thing
that no one had mentioned in terms of self-forgetfulness is what you just
said is, love.  And how, when we are truly in the state of love, we
forget.  We do forget ourselves.  Even if we are in a romantic
relationship, we forget ourselves, we think of love and think of the
other person.  And on the grander scale, we think of helping others, with
no thought of ourselves.  

I understand what you mean about the fear and the animal nature.  It kind
of serves as a reminder of what we used to be and kind of prompts me to
understand that I need to surrender more.  Thank you for that. 

Student:  Anatolia, A little earlier, I was getting ready for this class
and I sort of was hitting on some of these topics and I came up with the
desire to ask a question about the up-stepping to the Adamic uplifting of
our natures which tends to make us romantic and sentimental and
tenderhearted, which is really great, but we lack the rugged
self-control; and to me that translates to a knowledge that I lack the
social skills to share this sort of divine enthusiasm, which I know is a
gift.

And, maybe, earlier in life, it was a fear of death and a fear of
worsening and a fear of apathy or a fear of defeat or fear of further
betrayal after trust.  I feel my problem now is the lack of skill.  When
our minds are uplifted with the Adamic biological uplifting, but we seem
to get overwhelmed with the distractions of these superior and strong
emotions which I wonder, if a comment that could be made?  I would really
like to know if there is a mansion world courtesy that we could learn on
earth, the graciousness of Jesus that would make us less timid in sharing
it with others?

Anatolia:  My friend, you have a large, warm heart and it is natural for
you to want to share the good news that you feel within yourself.  The
time is rapidly approaching when there will be many people who will have
the ears and the minds to hear your words.  There is a large upliftment
on the horizon that speaks to the spiritual curiosity within the human
heart.  This has been blocked for millennia due to the Lucifer Rebellion
and now Michael and Mother in their mercy ministry to their children are
allowing a massive outpouring of spiritual hunger and curiosity to enfold
the minds and hearts of their children of this world, and of the worlds
in rebellion.

So you will have ample opportunity, my friend, to share these messages
with your brothers and sisters.  You will find yourself overwhelmed at
some point in your life at all of the interest of what you speak.  But I
do understand your question and I wish to offer these words of council
now. Jesus was the most gracious and charming of humans would you not
agree?  (Student:  Without a doubt)  And he always seemed to handle
situations with poise and effortless ease.  And this is a quality that
you would like to now share with him. Is this not your hearts desire? 

Student:  Yes, it is.  It's been coming up over and over again.

Anatolia:  And so you only have to go to Him and say, "Master, I wish to
learn from you.  How did you know what to say?  How did you know how to
deal with this situation?  And so, my friend, it becomes a matter of
practice.  Practice going to Him.  Each time, before you speak say, "Not
my words, but Yours, Jesus. You be my mouthpiece."  

Now, I know this will take some time, but you have every opening within
you to afford you this experience and to allow this to happen.  And so
for a time, it will be your words that will mingle with his until you
find your own way and manner of speaking in this most gracious and
endearing of ways.  But, if this is something you want, then you must
practice this many, many times until you feel that Michael is now
stepping back and saying, "My son, you can speak for me.  You have been
well trained".  Do you understand?  (Student:  Yes, I do, and I will do
it.)  Are there any other questions of this nature in your mind?

Student:  I think just the idea of getting used to allowing the Thought
Adjuster to talk for us.  I'm not so used to thinking in terms of the
Christ Michael and Mother Spirit.  I'm beginning to see them as
co-teachers, like in a classroom.  And, I suppose it is a better
utilization of the Spirit of Truth, especially in with the mind help of
the Mother Spirit, that it's time to start taking advantage of this.  Is
this what you are implying?

Anatolia:  It is an implication. However, you have in Jesus and Michael,
one who has human experience. And would it not make sense in your own
mind to go to the one who understands human nature so thoroughly that he
was able to target what each person needed and said it in a way that was
just perfect for them.  Would you not want to learn of this individual? 
(Student:  I sure would!)  And so, in your human elder brother of Jesus,
you have the one who perfected this. And so you,too, my friend have every
opportunity to perfect this as well.  He is available to each one of you.
 There is nothing that he will not teach you if you come to him in
sincerity and say, "Master, teach me.  Show me your way so that I can
speak your words of love and grace."  There is no greater level of
instruction that will help you than to learn of Him.  Did He not say,
"Take my yoke upon yourselves, and learn from me?"  And so what does this
mean to you?

Student:  To actually do things in practical steps. In light, easy steps,
because the yoke is not too heavy and with taking advantage of that, and
I know with the Spirit of Truth.  I suppose this is the personality
element of the Spirit of Truth that we are not quite, not quite humble
enough to ask for, or hope for.

Anatolia:  He is accessible to you through this circuit.  Are there any
other comments or questions before we conclude this evening?  
 
Student:  Yes, it's good to visit with you again, Anatolia!  It is very
nice too!  I look forward to the one time you mentioned that sometime we
might meet face to face.  That would really be joyful.  

Anatolia:  As we all look forward to seeing you, our younger brothers and
sisters standing with us in our large and growing family.

Student:  You have such a reality that is so unimaginable to us.  And so,
it's good just to just to have your viewpoint and too, it exercises us to
(only, anyway, I just speak for myself) to realize what you are.  

Anatolia:  Well, we certainly do try to whet your appetites, and I am
glad to hear that we do that, to some degree!

Student:  And, sometimes it's pure cotton candy for our souls. Thank you
very much!

Anatolia:  And, for us too!  We have great joy in loving and serving you!
 Good evening.   



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