[tmtranscripts] Pocatello Transcript 10-13-00
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Sat Oct 14 20:35:22 PDT 2000
Alkon(Bill): Let fears subside, my friends; let peace gain ascendance in
your hearts, your minds and your bodies, for we worship a God of Love, not
a god of fear. I am Alkon, let us pray. O great Source of everything
that exists, we draw near to You and we experience You within us as a
living spring of water, bubbling up to everlasting life, as transcendent
joy, as serene safety/security amidst all the turmoil and change of
universe existence. Be with these, my brothers and sisters, and with us
teachers as we together fellowship one with the other. May our mutual
contact bring us spiritual growth and enhancement, for we ask this in the
name of him who has walked on this world and lived the life of faith,
overcoming all doubt, all fear, and all evil. Even so, glory be to you,
Christ Michael. Amen.
Daniel(Bill): Greetings, I am Daniel, your friend, your teacher, your guide
and your companion.
Ken: Greetings, Daniel.
Daniel: My dearly beloved children, how my heart is warmed with the
combined feelings of affection and brotherly pride that you have so
seriously striven to get on that surfboard to master the great wave.
Tonight you have reached into the depths of fear. You have emptied it out
and found that it has limits, that it is not bottomless and eternally
terrifying. Also you have found, once again, that you all are akin to each
other, for while the content of your fears may vary, the experience is
known to you all.
Your world is still very much in the grasp of the legacy of the rebellion,
but the first step to ridding yourselves of this legacy is to stare it
down. As long as you run away from that which you fear, you will be
forever intimidated by it. But with your hand firmly in the hand of
Michael you can look at that fear and it will, upon examination, melt down,
shrivel up, and eventually dissipate. You will emerge from that experience
the victor. You will be the conqueror. I will address this issue of ghost
fear, for this is the root of this whole concern.
Your textbook has an entire paper devoted to the origin of this terrifying
belief which literally held this planet in thralldom before the coming of
the Planetary Prince. Life was lived with the constant fear of the
disapproval of the unseen but imaginary ghost world. For further
information about this I suggest that you take your textbook and read this
paper in its entirety. With the coming of each epochal revelation there
was progress on a planet wide basis for the movement and evolution of
respect and love for God emerging from primitive fear and awe.
Unfortunately, the first and second epochal revelations were thwarted by
rebellion and default so that the third epochal revelation of Machiventa
was undertaken to stop this spread of deterioration and turn the tide of
the consequences of the rebellion. Machiventa's mission was very
successful for it laid the groundwork for the understanding of God which
evolved in Judaism to the point where Christ Michael could enter a culture
and further uplift their understanding.
As you have once again been informed this evening, since Pentecost all
rebel midwayers have been interned, the Spirit of Truth was shed abroad on
every mind and all the Thought Adjusters are here in legions to indwell
each person of normal mind upon their moral decision birthday. Yet still
there persists in certain cultures and religions a virulent belief in the
presence of evil spirits and malevolent ghosts. Because this fear is still
present, it continues to torment many people, at times yourselves included.
We have announced that this world is free of all personal evil beings other
than that which resides among mortals. We are testimony by our presence,
by the loving nature of our touch, that the truth that we speak cannot be
confounded. We have urged you all to seek within yourselves the presence
of God which effort always results in peace and tranquility.
There are fearful thoughts which are in the collective consciousness of
this planet and these are not themselves entities which can, as a midwayer
might have done in the past, strongly influence a person. Nevertheless
negative thinking has a certain degree of power. This is why we urge you
to pray for each other and for other situations, for your prayers directly
counteract, diffuse, and destroy the negativity in the collective
consciousness. Our mission has this as one of its primary goals, to erase
this fundamental fear from Urantia. I call it "ghost fear" because it has
the same flavor, the belief that somehow you do not have possession of your
own free will, but that some other outside influence can take it away from
you. This is totally in error, my friends. [Editor's note: As I was
transcribing this I was reminded of a sentence from the Apostle Paul's
second letter to Timothy which says: "God has not given us the spirit of
fear; but of power, of love, and of a sound mind". II Timothy 1:7 KJV].
Isaac thinks of mental illness and I shall reply to him. It is true that
there are seasons of psychosis which occur in some people's lives which are
not due to their choice. But this does not touch the soul. This illness
is strictly in the mind and it is of no consequence for the purpose of
choosing one's eternal destiny. It is a blatant and blasphemous falsehood
that the "devil" could take away a soul, as though he had that kind of
power. Never were any of the midwayers or Caligastia, Daligastia, able to
touch the soul of any person. Now that they are not here, that is totally
a moot concern. You are safe in the love of God; and we are here to tell
you this as plainly as we can. No, Isaac, as you have stated, we are not
liars or fools; we are loving brothers and sisters.
Now because some of you have had such frightening experiences it will take
a replay of the experience of love, an immersing again in the peace of God,
a conscious effort to grasp the hand of God, a deliberate effort to relax
one's physical mechanism during stillness practice when one feels that
loving presence most strongly, to desensitize and erase this fear legacy.
I do say to all of you that you can master your fears, whether they be of
this severe ghost fear type, or some other equally frightening concept.
You do not have to live the rest of your lives captured by this fear
experience. I want to thank my colleagues, your personal teachers who have
been a part of your experience here in these meetings of late, and
particularly Loretta for her bravery in putting forth this difficult but
extremely important agenda dealing with doubt and fear.
Yes, you are light bearers, my friends. You are messengers of joy and hope
to a world that trembles in fear and despairs of salvation. We are moving
forward into the cusp, the edge of a spiritual transformation which shall
transform this world beyond recognition! You are part of that vanguard.
Well, I am being advised to curtail any further comments so that you may
have opportunity for comments or perhaps questions. Again, we have a large
retinue of celestial personalities here. The floor is now open.
Pat: Daniel, I need to speak tonight. I have been emotional all evening.
I need to say thank you to Loretta for her lessons. I took them very
personally as we had talked in our share time. I would like to thank you
and the rest of the team for being there for me last week. I felt your
love and your overwhelming support in wanting to help me. If only I would
have responded! Which I know is an opportunity missed. However, I learned
many things this week from all of you in ways I didn't expect. I learned
of your love, of your determination and commitment to me, even though I was
not being cooperative. I do appreciate your working with me the last
couple of weeks, all of you, that I have been able to become aware of the
fear I have and that I have allowed it to control me and my life. Also
that I have the courage to manage that now and put the fear in its proper
place. I know that I will have to work on this. At least I feel you have
helped me get on the right track. So my sincere appreciation to Loretta,
to you, and the rest of the team. I thank you.
Daniel: My dear, I speak for the rest of the team as well as myself when I
say to you a wonderful congratulations on your courage and your honesty.
You can only do what you can do at any given time. Any opportunity missed
will always be given another chance to manifest. Fortunately, in the
ascension career there is no such thing as a missed opportunity that has
any fatal effects, you see. For that which is not taken in a given moment
can be received later at another time. So, do not chide yourself that you
did not have the desire or courage, or whatever you would think of it, to
share this experience last week, because it has been serendepitously
arranged that your sharing tonight of your free will choice is at the right
time and place. Do you understand what I am saying here?
Daniel: Yes, my dear, and it is our greatest pleasure to assist all of you,
whatever your struggles may be, whether they be with fear, with doubt, with
anger, with guilt, with resentment, with unforgiving revengeful feelings.
There are a multitude of spirit poisons and we are here to help you
withdraw from all of these poisons and progressively become more and more
healthy and more and more morontial in your lives. As Loretta pointed out
last week, because of your group unity and your bottom line sharing with
each other, we have now implemented a plan where we will share ourselves
with you all, freely. This does not mean your personal teachers will
desert you, no, but now you have access, for example, to Loretta, if you
should desire to work on doubt and fear. Are there other comments or
questions at this time?
Then I would say one more thing regarding George Bernard and his coming to
this group. Indeed, is George under orders, for he has voluntarily taken
this upon himself. He is a most true and faithful partner with our
cousins, the midwayers of Urantia. He has himself, first of all, to share
with you and you have yourselves to share with him. This is your most
important sharing, this personal level. He has skills to share with you
and you have skills and information to share with him. You are brothers
and sisters. Do not be afraid of that which you do not yet understand, but
rather, thrill to the possibility of the dimensions which this can add to
I will share a conversation that was had between Isaac and Alkon with their
permission. Alkon was telling Isaac that he and his colleagues would
almost desire that you could see us, that we could dispense with any
uncertainty about our reality. But, you see, this has not yet been
mandated by Michael, although we are moving in that direction. I have
finished my comments. Are there any other issues or questions at this time?
Virginia: Daniel, I think of what one of our friends in the Wednesday night
group asked about why do some people see and that has not been her
experience. She is not here to ask that question yet we have named even
tonight those people who have seen lighted silhouettes, lighted figures of
the teachers. So I am wondering if it is this kind of sight that we are
going to be developing? Are we going in that direction so that our faith
will make us bolder? However, that's not faith, is it? (Laughing) That's
knowing! Anyway, would you comment on that, Daniel?
Daniel: The direction that you are going is toward the morontial realities.
Morontial means a blend of material and spiritual, as in a weaving of
cloth where the threads in one direction are spiritual and in the other
direction are material. Your soul is a morontial reality. Your soul will
survive death while your body and your mind will not. Your soul contains
your morontial mind which will then be housed in a new body on the mansion
worlds. While we are living in the mortal realm your morontia soul, your
true self, is growing. When you have a morontial body you will have the
ability to see way beyond the mortal realms. However, there are
characteristics of mortals in Light and Life, the ability to see morontial
forms and some spirit forms such as angels. These are mortals living in an
advanced spiritual age. Therefor, the vision of the morontial realm is a
possibility during mortal life.
I would say that seeing morontial forms and spirit forms is not as
important as seeing that life is not confined to the mortal realm but is of
an eternal nature if one chooses to ascend to Paradise. Perhaps this
vision is but the first inkling that breaks through your mortal
consciousness that indicates that the material world, as you see it now, is
but the beginning. This is the importance, that you grasp the reality of
eternal life and that this life is a consciously growing experience of
increasing union with your indwelling God Fragment until fusion shall unite
you forever. Does that answer your question, my dear?
Virginia: Yes, Daniel. It does. I realize the spiritual reality is what
we must be looking for and working for. I thank you.
Daniel: The most important thing that you need to devote your efforts
toward is transforming yourself from a largely animalistic person into a
morontial person. This is what you will do on the mansion worlds to the
degree that you have not completed this work in the mortal life. Therefor
there are two reasons why it is beneficial to do this work. Number one, it
improves the quality of your mortal life immensely. Number two, it
shortens the time period in which you have to experience remediation and
completion of personality unification. Are there any further questions?
Gwen: Hi Daniel.
Daniel: Hello, Gwen.
Gwen: When we started off this evening sharing the discussion of fear I
really couldn't relate to the level of fear that has been haunting some of
the people in this room. However, when you started the lesson tonight I
guess I had an internal lesson of my own going on at the same time. I was
writing in my planner. I realized that someone was trying to show me that
I do, indeed, have much fear as well; and that fear is a great, great fear
of losing myself in relationships with other people. It's overwhelming.
I've gotten a message that the only way to overcome this fear is to be with
myself in quiet time and spend time with the teachers and know with this
awareness of my fear, this alone, is a great step forward. I guess I may
not be asking a question, but just making a statement. I guess I am pretty
happy that this has come to me this evening because it is something that I
have struggled with and putting a name on it like "fear", which it is,
gives me something that I now have to conquer. So I thank you all for
sharing your fears and for the lesson on fear. I hope to go back and
listen to this transcript and the transcript prior to this and maybe I can
also get something from it, even though when I first heard the topic I
thought I could not relate to it. So, thank you.
Daniel: My dear Gwen, thank you for your willingness to share your insight
this evening with your friends here and with us. Indeed, is the first step
in conquering fear the looking it in the eyes aspect, the full recognition
of its presence and hanging the proper label on it so that it is
distinguished from just a murky generalized, nebulous sort of fearfulness.
Your fear of losing yourself in the relationship with another person, while
technically impossible, actually in experience has a large element of
truth, and that is... (and I am not referring specifically to you here) ...
there are necessary boundaries which define personalities and their
influence which, if they are not properly taught in childhood and in family
training will have to be acquired before one can overcome the feeling of
the loss of oneself.
There are many ways to look at this lack of boundaries, for a boundary is
an edge; it is the point at which you will not go beyond. It is
characterized by moral boundaries, by boundaries of free will where a
person has the right to say, "no, I will not do this" or "yes, I will do
that". It is necessary for people to have these boundaries so that they do
not become diffused into another person's personality, into another
person's wishes, another person's "whatever". Therefor, I say, while you
cannot technically be absorbed by another person, nevertheless these
missing boundaries can result in a mixing and diffusing between two people
where neither person feels comfortable or secure. Do you understand what I
am saying here?
Gwen: Yes, thank you.
Daniel: So, I am saying congratulations on recognizing this fear, but I am
offering you the hope right away that you can be rid of this fear when you
have firmly established your boundaries. You are doing this right now in
your life. You are completing your project for your degree; you are
assertively desiring to improve your job; you have made a decision about
your close relationship and you are considering another one. All of these
things are things you do because your boundaries are becoming firmer. So I
say, my dear, this fear that you have can be dissipated. That is all.
(Pause) I wish to continue for just a moment. (In a soft voice) I want you
to know that your willingness to connect yourself with your brothers and
sisters at this level of fear also is a step forward for you. My
Tanare(Bill): (with soft loving emotion) I am Tanare. To you, Gwen, I
extend my loving embrace. My dear, how wonderful it is to hear your words
of spiritual discovery. We shall develop a fine friendship! I will be
proud to be called your teacher. I am pleased to have such a courageous,
loving, and sweet personality to be engaged with. My love to you.
Andronason(Bill): Hello my dears, I am Andronason. I would say just a few
words before we terminate our evening's tryst. You are, as a group,
amazing! I tell you this with wonderment. You have studied hard over
these years and struggled with many things and yet you have persisted. You
have step by step ascended the mountain of experience, sometimes bitter,
many times sweet, but always you have moved forward. I commend you all and
I tell you, "Follow our Master, for his steps are unerringly accurate. He
will lead you to the Father himself. He is the way, the truth, and life
for mortals in his universe. Even so." Now, please stand and join your
As you feel the pleasure of the warmth of these hands in yours and you
envision the circle which makes this energy connection a reality,
experience also the transcendent realm which like a great dome covers over
you. This unity of the circle and the dome is your reality. At the top of
the dome is the Source, the Gods on Paradise as They send forth Their
spiritual ministries to you mortals in this circle.
Christ Michael, you have walked this planet. You know and love these, your
brothers and sisters, your children. Keep them safe from fear, from doubt.
Make them more than conquerors this week, that they may, indeed, be
heralds of good news. May it be so. Amen.
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