[tmtranscripts] Elypon/Tomas Group 6/4/00
Rick P. Giles
RickGiles at prodigy.net
Fri Jun 9 07:41:20 PDT 2000
Coeur d'Alene Teaching Mission Group
Topics: Olfana Visits, Unity/Diversity, Engagement/Avoidance, Feminity
Teachers: Olfana, Elyon, Lantarnek, Tomas
June 4, 2000
* Olfana (Jonathan TR): Allow this to begin. I am Olfana once again with
you, pleased to be in association. I perceive such luminous souls. It is a
beautiful landscape; your personalities manifest such variety; your intentions
are quite uniform. This diversity and similarity is what contributes to the
beauty of your arrangement together. From the viewpoint of morontia eyes, it is
quite colorful. To be as you are, such seekers for truth, those who are on the
quest for goodness, you display an art that is cherished by those from our
vantage point. Much as you enjoy a scenic viewpoint from the world whereon you
are stationed, we also behold the beauty of your expressions and take delight in
your discoveries, your emergence, much as you delight in the growth and
maturation of spring into summer and fall.
I will not occupy all your time today. I am visiting and send you my love
* Elyon (Ginnie): Good morning. This is Elyon. You all have this morning
shown us that diversity can exist within unity. Your unifying aspect is your
truth-seeking self, and yet you all display a variety of aspects that enlarge
this unifying principle of truth seeking. We are all amazed at your
explore further your own comfort level. It is indeed a mark of a maturing
welcome, or to at least allow, varying aspects to be considered so that you may
embellish your own gem of a soul. In fact, the analogy of a gem with its many
facets is a good image to use as you discuss this important question of truth
A gem has many facets. According to the way you look at it, according to
where you are standing, according to the position of the gem, according to the
amount of light, each facet will be seen differently. Sometimes one facet is
brilliant and glowing while another may be expressing a color. Even some
be showing at all or may seem dark. But it is still a gem. The dark sides will
at sometime look bright and beautiful, and the bright side will at some time not
be so bright. Taking it as a whole, a beautiful object which presents itself in
many colors is a way of looking at the evolving soul, the evolving personality,
and as you rub against each other you polish yourself.
As you progress in your ascension career, as any child progresses in their
life, their first career, you know that you can only act from where you are. As
you grow into maturity, as a child grows into maturity, you reach a point where
you no longer need to act the way you did when you were a child, and you put
those things away. As you mature you can begin to smile at your foolishness,
because at that time that is all you knew. The ascension career is designed
specifically for growth, for evolution, which means setting aside something that
is no longer useful to take on something new. As you know your ascension career
is very, very long and you have many, many chances to regroup, to re-choose your
master, whom you will serve.
In Michael's time on this planet he at all times showed that he was no
respecter of persons. He gave himself to whomever revealed a desire to follow
him. So, my friends, be eager and patient with yourselves as you progress in
maturity. In all your discussions, in all your thoughts, have one clear
which was Michael's purpose, that the Father's will be done, that the Father's
will be manifest in your life, and this will guide all your thoughts and all
I take leave now as there are others present who would like to speak. I
bid you peace.
* Lantarnek (Jonathan): Lantarnek Melchizedek speaking. I have a lesson to
share. It is in reflection upon the words "engagement" and "avoidance".
taught of potentials and actuals, and it is freely expressed that potentials
exist, that you may actualize them. But I must alert you to the truth that
potentials are non-existent. By this I mean that they are not items that you
select. They emerge into a latency from nothing based upon your selective
choosing and the dynamics of your experience. The existence of actuals takes
upon themselves relationship. The reorganization of actuals creates new
relationship. This relationship is the intervening space between actuals; that
shifting creates those potentials that emerge if you actualize them.
Avoidance is simply choosing another actual, not the refusal of some
potential. To perceive oneself as avoiding is really to be engaging in some
other form of expression. You need not fear that there is lurking about you
condition which will foist itself upon you and overcome you with a situation in
which you have no selective options.
The beauty of the dynamics of the universe condition is the discovery of
actuals as they emerge from potentials, or, to put it another way, the emergence
into reality that which did not exist. As these latencies emerge, new
arise and hitherto inexpressible actuals are made known, are lived out, are
realized, are attained. This brings me to my point: you each are islands of
original creativity. Father Of All has not mapped out a script of potentials
that you must cleverly discover and select to please Him or to qualify as a
spirit ascender. He has left to you the mechanisms of the universe, the
of mind, and the reality of spirit presence that you may create out of apparent
nothingness truth and goodness and beauty.
I encourage you to be engaged in this activity, and I would play yet with
your word "avoidance" that it is a void dance. All the power resides within
choosing, your selectivity, you keenness of perception, and your application of
Thank you for receiving my words.
* Tomas (Gerdean): Thank you for voicing those words, for now my transmitter
has opted to engage! I have been having a hard time coming through, for she has
been using the excuse of a cold to not hear me. I have no particular profound
pronouncements, but as always it is a pleasurable opportunity to present myself
to you in personality presence under these social gatherings of learning and
sharing. I would personally feel remiss if I were not able to at least say
The message I would bring would relate to the charismatic presence of our
sister Olfana, whose charm of character is such that she can represent for us in
this setting today the divine equality of the feminine as Jesus taught was truth
when it comes to sons and daughters of God. I won't go into the philosophic
differences between formats and forums, for we could get lost in discussions of
planetary administration and social arts and competitive skills ad infinitum.
But the charm and strength of the feminine is a fact that is still
overlooked in your world. The culture has a way to go before understanding and
appreciating the strengths of the mother. The archetype of the male,
administrative god and male dominated aspects of spirituality are in many ways
obstructions to the full breadth of what spirit reality is, for there are realms
of thought and feeling that will not be incorporated unless and until that
element of reality is embraced. It is an encouragement, yes, but more than
it is an invitation to balance.
I will not pursue this jellyfish further. Having had an opportunity to
greet you and embrace you, I look forward to our continued association today and
throughout the week and look forward to next week when we are stronger. Thank
Jonathan: Should Gerdean feel like it, I have a question.
* Tomas: I am happy to receive your question, and she is happy to acquiesce,
Jonathan: Thank you both. I received a letter from a friend, and we have
differences of opinion. I want to respond lovingly yet express what I believe.
Can you help me focus my approach.
* Tomas: I will ask some questions. What are your motives in responding?
Jonathan: To maintain this friendship of several decades and to stand up
and fight, to hold my sense of validity.
* Tomas: I commend your feelings and your yearning to represent truth while
having the continued association of what has been a mortal comrade. These
friendships lend quality to life, and as years go by they lend history, as well,
thus expanding your scene. Your life is not only made more meaningful but made
more, time-wise. You may realize that the need to remain friends with someone
is, for all of its value, a lesser reason to maintain an argument or a stance
than to uphold the truth or the principle, itself. If the point is important
enough, it will not matter to you whether or not the relationship survives, for
the relationship between you and your reality, your comprehension of what is
real, to wit, your god, may require that you set aside that loyalty to your
friendship for that loyalty to that which overrides and oversees all other
relationships. It would seem however that this is not a situation that will
you forth from your loyalty to God but to the echelon of followers. So, it is a
sociologic matter and not really worth losing friends about. You might want to
take a point or two to be fraternal, but in the long run, will it make any
difference in their soul? If they have found a truth that works for them, that
will only become greater if resisted. You might do well to commend them for
their loyalty to their belief system and not worry so much that it diverges from
The fact that it is in public, it is a public forum, has of course added an
element of face. Your admitted negligence to use spell-check has left you with
egg on your face in public, and you would perhaps like to clean up your act and
indicate to your friends that you are intelligent and can express yourself, and
they know this clearly. So, assuage yourself and your rightfully healthy
only say so much as would be said to an old friend, trusting in that
I am saying this to not lose sleep over these matters which are in the long run
temporary. That's my two cents.
Jonathan: Thank you. You busted me on that website posting. My burning
passion is to post an updated version of that article, I am more bothered by
than the misunderstanding between friends!
* Tomas: Perhaps then you have clarified for yourself a better understanding
of what the nature of the project is.
Jonathan: I will take to heart upholding this fellow's point of truth and
not tear him down in defending myself.
* Tomas: This is an indication of healthy balance such as I indicated in my
reference to the value of the feminine. There is balance also in the
There is a certain dance even now ongoing between the male egos of which you
refer. The stags who lock horns, who get their antlers entwined with each other
in season, and their elemental dance of survival. These are subtle but they
interfere in the greater portrayal of your true reality. That is all.
Jonathan: Thank you.
Ginnie: Jesus said to not tear down another's belief, to find fault.
Always add something to it instead.
Jonathan: Truth will crowd out any error. You don't have to weed out the
error, just provide light.
Kirk: It seems the potential of fear and hatred has been brought to the
highest. Power has been male oriented. To have that change, for love to
the planet, would it coincide that more leadership on the planet would be
Nurturing, loving; would you look for that for a change in a planet?
* Tomas: In future the male and female will co-administrate. If your planet
had been able to maintain its Material Son and Daughter you would have been
nurtured under a dual administration of the male and female. It will take a
time before Urantia is able to embrace such an ideal. It is unfortunate, but it
falls upon enlightened men and women to establish the tone, to set the standard.
You are all very vulnerable to the same legacy as the unenlightened. You
are in fact no different than those who are ignorant in that you have the same
propensities and tendencies as everyone. Rise above your animal legacy and find
your way through the Spirit of Truth that you have any advantage at all. In
advantage is a terrible responsibility, the fact that each of you sitting
dual natured is a circumstance within you that comprises the male and the
the human and the divine. It is the territorial male as well as the territorial
female. It is the lesser of all potential and the potential of all great. Thus
you must make choices based on the best possible garnering you are capable of.
Someday there will be co-administration. In the meantime you know what you are
dealing with; it is less than the ideal. Rather than base it on what has been,
one might look at what it can be and see the ingredients are there that would
allow it to grow in that direction.
The planetary government of your nation, your world, has been suffering
from the default, as well. The inability of the president and the first lady to
co-administrate the nation is an example of how it has gone awry. We would have
it be the president and vice-president and their wives who are called upon to
behave as wives, not as administrators. It's all confused. It will be a long
time before there is true clarity, but you can certainly begin to appreciate
what's needed and begin to deny all animalistic tendencies and search for those
more idyllic tendencies. That means balance. It means openness to change. It
means an appreciation of feelings that is sensitive to others. It is not all
letter of the law but spirit of the law, as well. It is not possible for me to
edify you in one morning message what all is necessary for you to learn to look
for in your fellows and develop in yourselves that will lend itself to greater
co-administration of future regimes, including the regime of your own home and
your own soul. Again, you are encouraged.
` Did I confuse you?
Kirk: No, thank you.
* Lantarnek (Jonathan): This is Lantarnek and I would like to also address
The acts of hatred and fear arise from possession or the desire to possess
or the desire to not lose. Love is all-embracing and accepting. It is boundary
eliminating, and this is hard for an animal origin being to do. The male has
been conquer-oriented, but the female likewise has the tendency to preserve clan
or family. This loving energy you seek that has been better expressed by the
female gender in your race is resident in both sexes. In order for you
individually to have an effect upon the evolution of this planet such that the
rulership expresses this quality of love, address, focus, yourself to your
family. The more balanced the parents, the more balanced the individual child
that rises to take roles within society. Regardless of the gender, that
individual will be better able to express the qualities that are ideal in
At this stage in your evolution it is beneficial that the female side of
the human race have more input and influence upon the makeup of society; you
full well she has been for a long time in the background.
Michael of Nebadon rules with Nebadonia. This equal partnership is the
model for all function throughout this universe. Tomas has expressed well how
even this world ought to have had this same co-rulership structure. Without it
in the planetary administration the next level wherein this effect may occur is
in the family unit of each one of you.
I am done.
Ginnie: We are given the mind spirits of Nebadonia and the Indwelling
Spirit of the Father. We have those actuals, latent talents.
* Tomas (Gerdean): As well as the Spirit of Truth.
Ginnie: I'm going to re-read the sections on the Material Sons.
* Tomas: It is a concept that is hard for you to understand, granted, for
your frame of reference seems to come from the eating of the apple, and of
it was Eve's fault. Therefore man took over and has kept control ever
is a distorted picture of reality at best. You will begin to understand the
value of co-administration and how our Sovereign Son has established the
sovereignty of his and Nebadonia's universe as a joint project wherein each has
their assigned tasks and wherein each confers mutual respect upon each other and
no creative decisions are made without the full support of each other. This is
not something that is that difficult to do; it's just that you don't think
You have not had role models. You must establish in your hearts those role
models that Adam and Eve would have been and Michael and Nebadonia truly are.
Even though they rule from worlds away, they are working in your hearts as you
evolve. So you will be able to talk about what they would have you do if you
counsel with them in your evolution of this great ideal of the spiritual
of the male and the female.
That is all.
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