[tmtranscripts] Pocatello Transcript 12-17-99

Bill Kelly billk at ida.net
Thu Dec 30 03:05:17 PST 1999

December 17, 1999

Archangel (Bill/Isaac): I speak to you this evening with authority from
Michael of Nebadon.  I am an Archangel of the Resurrection who as been
observing your group and similar groups throughout this country.  I come
with good tidings, with good news which shall be to all people on this
planet as well as the others immerging from rebellion status.  

As you approach the season of remembrance of our Sovereign Creator Son you
have the advantage of two thousand years of evolution to enlarge and make
more meaningful that great and wondrous event.  Once again we are in the
process of the down stepping of major celestial contact which was proceeded
by the definitive text for the up grade of revelation of this fifth epochal
experience.  But as you all know the contact is not limited to the words on
the pages of the book, but to all men and women who desire to discover and
to know God is the contact offered and made realizable.  And so at this time
when your Christian culture is threatened with an overwhelming of
materialism and paganism, should you, my friends, with your lives
demonstrate the true meaning of Michael's bestowal.  

He came to bring life and to bring it abundantly.  He came to show the way
to God, his Father and our Father.  He came to demonstrate how a person can
truly live a spiritual life.  He came to fully understand what it is to be
human.  I invite you this evening to join the angelic chorus which ever and
anon broadcasts the message of God's universe reality: let there be peace on
earth and good well among all people.  Enjoy your ceremonies and your
rituals, which can bring your closer to the emotional and spiritual meaning
of Michael's coming.  While you walk in the flesh continue to live in the
spirit so that people can really notice there is a fragrance about you, a
flavor to you, which is the radiance of your divine Indweller.  

Take yourselves out of the doldrums of over emphasis upon yourself and take
instead the burden of Michael, which is light.  It is not heavy.  Take his
yoke upon you and learn of him for he is meek and humble, even as he is the
Sovereign Creator of this universe.  Let the joy of Christmas ring the bells
of your soul and light your eyes with the sparkle of hope which is not based
upon fantasy, but is based upon true reality.  

Now my dear people I take my leave to join my sisters as they prepare their
anthems of glory at this time of year.  Be cheerful.  Let your love be
sincere and genuine.  Pray for one another, but most of all lift up your
hearts and minds to behold the love of God that unifies the universe and
holds it together in structure and substance.  Good evening.

Daniel (Bob): My friends, I am Daniel, your teacher, guide and elder
brother.  I trust you enjoyed the words of our colleague this evening.  She
has been with us on numerous occasions and (we) felt tonight was an
appropriate (time) for her to speak to you her words of greeting.  Now I add
mine to the mix.  My children, your preciousness is close to my heart, for I
love each of you so much.  It is difficult to leave each of you to go to
another as I do my rounds, for it is a time of grieving.  This has made my
rounds more difficult, yet I remain steadfast to my appointed task.  And I
seek to be with each of you on a somewhat regular basis.

Tonight we have a similar task for you to accomplish related to the format
that we have established these last few weeks.  We trust you enjoy this
style of teaching for we find it suits our current needs quite well.  Now
for tonight's lesson, here is Brother Aaron.

Aaron (Bill): Greetings, my friends, I am Aaron.  We are aware of the time
and so I will reduce my questions to but a single inquiry.  Actually what I
wish you to do might be more appropriately called role-playing.  I wish you
to imagine someone, either male or female, adult or child asking you this
question:  "I've noticed you seem to be different than most people I meet.
You seem to be happier, more confident, more positive.  Can you tell me the
secret of your joy, your happiness, your peace?"   So if you were in fact
asked this question, how would you reply?  

I will revert to a circular procedure so that all may struggle with this
imaginary, but very realistic situation.  I will begin with Virginia and
conclude with Bill.  I will stay in touch with Bill while others are
answering and then release him for his own reply.  Again, if you are totally
unable to respond to my question, you do not get an "F" for the day.  You do
not get any negative consequences.  I would merely ask you to make an effort
to answer.

Virginia: Well teachers, when you first said that question I thought of
Gwen's question to Ken tonight, when she said, "what do these three
concentric circles mean?"  And it really is very similar because the circles
are a symbol of what it means to have God in our life.  I'm not sure that
this year someone would come up to me and say, "why are you happy; why are
you positive?"  (Laughter.)  But it has certainly been my experience in the
past.  In fact my reputation at Bonneville School has been until recently
that I was a naive, Polly Anna.  And I guess that if someone were to say
something to me now, and certainly there are individuals that do, I would
point to the fact that, what ever happens, God loves me.  That's a pretty
powerful influence in one's life.  So I think that's what I would say.

Aaron (Bill): So Letah, my dear, you would refer to your own experience?

Virginia: Absolutely.  No one can divorce themselves from their own
experience.  Whatever your experience is, is your reality.  So joy and peace
and happiness and love and positive positions on this planet have to be the
result of my experience, which is that God has been the most powerful,
loving experience in my life for a long, long time.

Aaron (Bill): Thank you for your forthright answer.  And truly no one can
argue with someone else's experience.  Had you referred to a religion, a
belief taught to you by a church, or even possibly had you referred to your
understanding as it has been enhanced by the Urantia Book, that in itself
would not have the power of your own experience.  So, again my dear, I
appreciate your clear and effective answer.

Gwen, you may feel the question is inappropriate for you, for you have been
recently in depression, but still how would you try to reply to such an inquiry?

Gwen: Well immediately, when you asked the question, I agreed that right now
there is no way I could relate to that, you're asking me that question.  But
I have in the past been in a place where I can imagine someone asking me
that question--why I am in a state of incredible happiness and peace.  And
it emanates from my body.  So I have been there before.  I do have a feeling
of what that is and I hope to be able to get there again soon.  

I also know in the past I've struggled with happiness coming from other
people.  And that is something I have had to learn over time, which is that
true happiness can only come from within myself.  So, when I refer to this
happiness in the answer to the question, it is a happiness that is deep
inside myself.  It is inside me.  It is a feeling of completeness.  It is a
feeling of connectedness with God, whereas when I walk down the street I
feel that my feet aren't touching the ground.  It is a feeling that if I
were alone on the planet I would still have completeness enough to continue
on with that happiness.  I've been there before and I hope that everyone can
be there, at some point in their life.

Aaron (Bill): Thank you very much for sharing your true feelings.  Your
answer then, even though you may not feel as emotionally connected to it as
you have in the past, your answer is that you do not feel alone, that you
are connected to God, that it is this connection that gives you this joy and
peace.  Did I understand you correctly?

Gwen: Yes, the inner peace is a big part of that for me.  That is the
stumbling block for me, the inner peace.  And as I have that, the pathway to
God is free and clear.

Aaron (Bill): And of course, this connection to God is because you, as well
as every other sentient mortal being, are a child, are the offspring of God,
are a daughter in your case or a son in another.  That is the degree of the
intimacy, a direct connection of the most profound order.  Thank you.

Marty, how would you reply?

Marty: Again I always have trouble with the words, but to me it all boils
down to the fact that I am able to feel the love of God much more intimately
now than I ever have, that Christ Michael is closer to us, to me.  In the
Bible he was just a figure, but in the Urantia Book it seems that I can
learn a little bit more about him and feel closer to him, and of course, to
God through the Thought Adjuster.  I feel that whatever has come and changed
me has come from the basis of being loved by those people and all the angels
that are around us.  You just don't feel alone any more regardless of what
happens.  You can still feel that you are always loved regardless.  Even if
everything else has gone wrong you still have something to hold on to.

Aaron (Bill): Would you say that your time in stillness has aided you in
this connection, this feeling of intimacy with Christ Michael?

Marty: I'm sure it probably has.  I am not near as good with it as I should
be, and gotten back to it.  But I think that when I was doing it that it
definitely did help and I keep thinking I will get back to it. But hopefully
I will get myself turned around and back to it again because I miss it.  I
think that is definitely one of the major ways you can come up with that

Aaron (Bill): Thank you, Marty.  I will make this comment about the Urantia
Book.  This book is the basis upon which the fifth epochal revelation
proceeds.  It is important to understand the universe in its true nature.
It is important to understand the Trinity on Paradise.  It is important to
understand that each of you, and others of moral status, has a part of God
in you in your minds, creating with your cooperation your eternal souls.
These concepts are equally important as the experience.   While many people
have true experience but know not these concepts, their enlightenment must
await the future.  Eventually of course all mortals in the mansonia career
learn far more than is contained in the pages of the Urantia Book, so that
partial knowledge on this planet and others is compensated for.

But there is no substitute for experience.  And so the more experience that
you can have with your spiritual sources, your Thought Adjuster, the spirit
of Christ Michael, the Spirit of Truth, your angelic compliments who guard
your destiny, the midwayers sometimes, and (personal) teachers, the more
contact that you can have, the more chance you have to experience spiritual

And now Bob, if you would, if you would care to reply to my question, I
would be enlightened.

Bob: I don't think so.  (Laughter.)  Almost always when one of my students
asks me a question, if I don't have an idea, it comes to me—quickly.  I get
no such help tonight.  (Banter.)  Well, the answer to your question is I
haven't the foggiest idea what I would say, except I'm sure I would come up
with something.  But at this moment in time I do not know what I would say.

But it is interesting that just prior to your asking the question; I was
wondering why that hasn't happened to me.  Why haven't I been asked why I
seem to be so happy, so positive?  And I wonder why more people haven't
asked me, and maybe some of the rest of you have felt the same way.  (Some
agreement expressed.)  Why isn't that (happening), because I feel that I am
that way.  And I say, isn't it obvious?  Where are these people?  Can't they
see what's going on here?  (Laughter.)  But I don't get that question
raised, which raises lots of questions in my mind as to why is that no
happening.  Maybe I'm not doing as well as I thought I was.  My guess is
that it has more to do with the people we deal with.  Spiritual issues
really are not a part of human conversation.  That's my experience, and
unless you open the door just a crack, those questions tend not to be asked.  

Bill and I have had lots of experience promoting the Urantia Book in schools
we have been at.  We've talked to people on occasion at times we thought
were appropriate, and we got no where.  (Laughter.)  We've struck out, but
that is a question that I think I need to deal with and one which I plan to
give some thought to over next few days/weeks/months, with the hope than
someday, in the not too distant future somebody is going to ask me.
(Laughter.)  And will have a halfway literate answer to give them.  (More
laughter.)  But as of tonight I haven't.

Aaron (Bill): My dear friend, before you seriously wound yourself with
self-flagellation, (Laughter.) let me say this.  First of all, the fact that
you are not normally worrying about this or practicing this in your mind is
not to be taken as a negative quality.  Rather you should be commended for
your faith and trust that God will speak to you when those times should
come.  Secondly, you all suffer from the truism that "a prophet is without
honor in his own country".  People have difficulty in changing their
perceptions of others, or even of themselves, when true change has occurred.
Sometimes it takes a long time for the change to be perceived.  Others who
know not their history and meet them can be much more accurate in their
appraisals.  So you may not find your tried and true acquaintances of many,
many years asking this question of you, (and I speak now to you all), but
rather a new-comer into your life, when seeing your flavor and taste of
divinity as contrasted with their usual experiences, bringing this question
to the forefront.  So rest at ease.  Do not beat yourselves up, any of you.
I am not bringing this question up to arouse any anxiety or cause you to
feel guilty.  Ultimately you must rely on the Spirit to speak, even as Jesus
advised his original apostles not to worry about what they would say.
I know we have three more yet to respond.  So let us proceed.  Ken, how
would you reply to this question?

Ken: You had mentioned before that we would be approached in this manner.
And this question has rattled through my thought process several times on
how to respond to somebody.  If somebody should come up and ask me that
question, I would be honored.  But in reality the honor would be to the
Father for giving me the understand and helping me build my faith in Him
that I may share the three main attributes that I have repeated many times,
truth, beauty and goodness.  I have talked to people before about the
Urantia Book and it has basically turned them off.  But if you can talk to
them about God, about faith, about loving, about understanding, talk to
them—talk to their Thought Adjuster from the heart.

Aaron (Bill): Thank you.  And again you have expressed a most important
point, and that is that the focus is not on the self.  It is not an
egocentric achievement to have joy, happiness, hope, commitment, and so
forth.  It is in fact the renunciation of the concept that self should sit
on the throne of the mind and heart.  It is the renunciation of this
self-hood and the proper enthronement of God in your lives that has
accomplished this.  With one small part though.  You must honestly admit
your responsibility and that is that you made the choice to respond.  God is
always the initiator, but you must respond.  When you answer others, be
careful that you not give an impression that God chooses certain people, and
ignores others, for this, of course, is not true.  But people have various
degrees of light that comes to them due to their culture, due to the
circumstances of birth, due to their education or lack their of, but
everyone has to make the choice to respond to the light they have.  I hope
that I have made clear my meaning here.  It is not an egocentric reply, but
it is also true to say that you all follow the light that you had.  Maybe
not perfectly but you would not be here tonight if you had not responded.
This concept Daniel has advised you on many times.

Pat, how would you reply to a hypothetical questioner?

Pat: Well, when you first asked the question I, unlike Bob, thought I could
not imagine anyone asking me that.  So, I think the only thing I would say
is that basically I have been open to the will of the Father.  And I
appreciate your words about being open and following the light, because I
have asked myself why I'm here many times.  (Laughter.)

Aaron (Bill): Thank you for your reply.  It is my sense, Pat, that you are
very appropriately nestled in this gathering, that you truly belong here.
And even though you had your hesitations at first, you have been willing to
pursue truth, beauty and goodness to the end, which is, of course, the
mortal experience of divinity.  Therefor you have been willing to follow the
guidance of the piece of God that lives in you.

And now Isaac, take off your hat.  

Bill: Well, Aaron, there was once an occasion that a person asked me that
question, and I felt that I did a rather poor job of answering it.  It seems
like I referred to the Urantia Book, and didn't do a very good job; so I'm
not going to say that that first attempt was what I would do now.  

It would depend on the level of intimacy between me and the other person.
If this was someone that I thought I could trust more of myself to, I might
put in some details about how it was before I had effective contact with
God.  And in my case it would have to include aspects of my personal life,
which are more readily understood in a group of people whose focus is upon
addiction and those kinds of issues, because for me I had made a connection
earlier in my life and it was more or less rather seriously interfered with
by the same kind of chemical imbalance that can be caused by other kinds of
mental illness, mood disorders, and so forth.  In my case it was
artificially induced by my own choice.  So once that was cleared out of my
head, then I was able to hear God speaking to me, God conversing with me.  I
was able to resume my connection.  So I guess I would have a little bit
different reply than someone who didn't have to deal with the substance
abuse issue.  I do in effect say this, (although people are not asking me),
in meetings where I talk about my practice of reading the Urantia Book,
prayer and worship that I do on almost a daily basis.

Virginia: I must give my husband the credit.  He has become one of the most
positive people I know!  We have played a reverse role because of my own
personal trials right now.  So there are some prophets that speak and help out.

The other thing is, you mentioned speaking out of your own country/family,
and I thought of the fact that my sister shared last Saturday that she and
her husband both are dying.  It was so easy to say I know you are going to
find a loving God on the other side.  It was such an unplanned statement.  I
know that is when the spirit gives us words to say.  So, thank you.

Aaron (Bill): Now, Letah my dear, indeed are you experiencing more and more
the spontaneous expression that comes from the leading of your indwelling
Spirit.  This is not merely an impression; it is a fact.

Isaac is truly appreciative of your comments.  While the adage may be true
in general, of course, it is not always a matter of rejection and disbelief
on the part of those who are close to you.

Now in reply to his (Bill's) comment, I would say this.  You have shown
great bravery, my friend, in finally uncovering and accepting the reality
that your life was under the tyranny of the insanity that was alcoholism.
But you are not at fault, for that is an inherited disease.  Many do not
brave the tempest of the soul to see where the ship of life is headed, and
you have taken the other course.  From your experience you will speak as you
do, with power and with truth.

And now to all of you, my friends, I say to you, you are wonderful people.
You are God's children.  You are my brothers and sisters.  I am ecstatic!
Let us all bend our knees to the Father of lights who has sent his only
begotten Son of the universe of Nebanon to grace this planet with his love.
In the name of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite
Spirit, may grace, mercy and peace be with you all.  Good night.

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