Ham on Experience and Relationship

David G. Schlundt, Ph.D. david.schlundt at vanderbilt.edu
Tue Jul 21 15:23:13 PDT 1998

May 10, 1998


Greetings, children, I am Ham and I thank you for journeying here today
and also for contributing so much to this experience. Each one of you
contributes to the experience of all. And helps to broaden the
experience of all others attending. So don't think of your attendance
here just in terms of learning from me. Think of it as contributing to
the enrichment of the experience for all. When one is absent, the others
are poorer for it.

Tonight, our lesson will consist of discussion concerning experience and
relationship. As you experience the Father, you are developing a
relationship with him as you do with other people. I know this is
difficult to envision because God is so far beyond your experience and
is at the same time the most intimate experience. But very much of your
relationship building is conscious communication with the Father.
Conscious sharing of the inner self. Sharing of the true emotive self.

Your willingness to open your hearts to him, to share yourselves with
him, to communicate with him largely determines the extent of your
conscious awareness of him. So when you cry out to the Father, in times
of desperation or speak to him the truth of your heart in quiet, he
hears and responds to every conscious reaching for him. And as this
experience is strengthened, deepened through repetition, gradually your
conscious awareness of his presence and his response comes into being.

Jesus even as a child would talk things over with his Father in heaven,
communicate with him, consciously, and could feel and experience the
Father's replies. You as adults are far too busy, too in control, too
much feeling like taking with God is just talking to yourself and feel
like you have to wait for something really important to talk to Father
about, before you do.

This is incorrect. It is most important to discuss your day, your
feelings, your inner life with the Father in a purely personal manner
and as you do this and begin to feel closer to him, and begin to feel
secure with him, then many wonderful things will occur in your lives.

The Urantia book emphasizes the role of the Father as Thought Adjuster
or Thought Controller, and this is one view of him. One that Jesus had
was confidante, intimate friend. As you talk to the Father in your
everyday experience and you consciously bring him into all your day to
day decisions and work, you are opening up your own heart and mind to a
greater awareness of the true importance of all the little things that
you all take for granted and put aside and wait until something
important, in your estimation, comes along.

The Father will show you that this is erroneous, that it is rather all
the little things that are important. And often the little things that
create a sturdy character that can then tackle larger issues and
dilemmas. It is the little things that are your training ground. It is
the little things that are important.

I am always perplexed by the human attitude that your problems are not
important enough to bring them to the Father, or that the Father isn't
interested in your daily life. When at the same time you understand that
he has sent a piece of himself to be with you day in and day out.
Experience every little thing that you experience.

As you learn to talk things over with the Father, you will find that a
great burden is lifted from your shoulders. Know that the Father desires
this kind of conscious sharing and don't say to yourself, "Oh, he knows
everything anyway. What good will it do for me to tell him, when he
knows?" It is as I am telling you. You are bringing him consciously into
your life. You are confiding in him, you are opening your hearts to him.
And he will more and more become a part of your everyday life. A
constant friend, a part of every scene, every situation, every decision.
And this relationship of trust will build and grow and become closer and
closer. And his guidance then will extend further and further into your

And this is all a part of getting to know God and becoming increasingly
like him. God is a person. God is personal. This must be done in a
personal way. In the little things. Are there any questions?

Q: Ham, I've been having some unusual things going on in my body and I
was wondering is there is anything that I should be concerned about?

A: Yes, your health could improve. Yes, you could use more exercise of
an aerobic nature to exercise the heart and blood vessels. There is some
fatty tissue buildup beginning around the heart, some numbness in your
arm or hand, perhaps, that is caused by poor circulation. There is
nothing wrong with nerve tissue or nerves, this is fine. Also there's a
fatty tissue deposit on the brain that could be causing some vision
blurring and weakness in the arms, or something, kind of. A feeling of
general weakness. This can all be relieved by aerobic exercise, fast
walking or jogging. To get the heart rate up. As often as you can, say
15 minutes a day to begin with. Is there any other symptoms you can tell

Q: Yes, I've dropped a lot of weight, almost 20 pounds in a month. And a
soreness in the tongue.

A: The weight loss is good, not harmful, but will return quickly without
exercise. The mouth soreness is a symptom of poor blood. You are not
taking in the proper vitamins and minerals that you need.

Q: Any suggestions as to what I might lack?

A: Trace minerals. You could experiment with colloidal mineral drinks.
Something of this nature. Also you need vitamin A. And C. Spiritually
you are doing very well, son, and are making good progress. The children
are a great good fortune, blessing for you are learning many lessons
from them and are understanding the child within yourself as it responds
to these children. Yes, this is good and a wonderful thing to see.

Q: Ham, would that grated orange drink to dissolve plaque in the
arteries be good for him?

A: At this time, arterial plaque is not a problem. This is not so much
of a concern.

Q; Ham, you know for a long time I have concentrated on my association
with the Master, rather than the Father, what should I be doing now?

A: Developing your relationship with the Father does not exclude the
Master. You would do well to develop your relationship with the Father
at this time.

Q; Ham, I really appreciate your lesson tonight, I really needed it. But
if one has had an uncommunicative father on the earth this time, it's
very difficult to learn to have personal gives and takes, it's hard to
imagine confidence with a farther reaching father when one has had a
lack with the closer interpersonal relationship.

A: Yes. Often the earthly father colors how humans feel about their
heavenly father. This is inevitable, but unfortunate. The heavenly
father is perfect love and no human father, no matter how well
intentioned, gives perfect love to his children. The human beings are
imperfect and are therefore incapable of reflecting or conveying perfect
unconditional love. The child is always confused as to the difference
for some time. And is unable to take nourishment from the heavenly
father in those areas where the human father was not nourishing.
Sometimes it takes many years after the earth parents have passed on for
the child to understand the difference between earth parents and the
heavenly parents. Sometimes the word father denoting god is more
limiting than enlightening. Therefore, you must reach beyond the earth
parents to establish this connection and to bring it deeply into your
life. You can, of course, address God the Father in any term that helps
facilitate this. Something you never called your earth father, perhaps.
Because this relationship between you and the heavenly father is the
most important relationship in your life. You must make an effort to
strengthen this bond. And at this time it means by-passing the earthly
father. This relationship with the earthly father is troubling because
it's so unsatisfying. You have not received what you've needed from him.
And this unrequited need has left you feeling like there is something
wrong with you. So. You must understand that the relationship with your
earthly father is not likely to change and you must also understand that
your real father desires to give you all the things that your earthly
father could not. Unconditional love, attention, complete understanding,
complete help without requirements. You will find secure and complete
love in the Heavenly Father. And once you really realize that the earth
father can in no wise duplicate that or replicate that, your feelings of
hurt and resentment will fade toward him.

Q: S. wants to know if his spiritual name is Lazarus?

A: Yes, this is a close approximation of the sound that is best
describing this man, yes.

Q: I wanted to ask for a message for Esmeralda, and if it's known,
what's causing her illness?

A: It is a number of things. A viral infection and the gradual
readjustment of the body to not having nicotine. Nicotine withdrawal.
This is a purging and a readjustment that is taking place as well. This
can happen even six months after the person quits smoking. But mainly
she has had a viral infection.

Q: Any other messages?

A: Daughter, these have been trying times and yet ones of great
revelation as well. Be of good cheer, you are loved by many. And have
been a great example to many as well.

Q: Elena?

A: Daughter, you are continuing as always to make good progress and are
learning to balance and to stand with two feet firmly on the ground. In
your own space. Feeling your own feelings. Don't be confused about what
way is best, do as your heart tells you. Do what feels right for you.
And let go of always trying to please others. That is all.

Q: Rebecca?

A: Yes, daughter, you are experiencing inner changes that are growth
promoting and are completely necessary. You are learning to be joyful
amid all circumstances and to relish challenges and new experiences.
Continue to open your heart to your own potential and self-worth. That
is all.

Q: Myself!

A: Son, you are very courageous and are very inspiring to many people.
You have great gifts that are yet becoming apparent. As you grow and
grow out of old patterns and fears that restricted you, you will truly
bloom and blossom with the rays of the Lord beaming upon you. Go in
peace, my son. You are progressing well.

Q: A message for Dan?

A: Yes, son, you are likewise allowing yourself to be restricted and
held within certain limits of who you think you are. Who you have
decided to become. And likewise as you let go of those old barriers,
those old restrictions, you will discover that as now you are like a
bud. You will bloom into the greater you. Let go of these old anxieties,
that extend so deep into your past. Let go of expectations and ideas
that you have decided on and that others have placed upon you. You are
just beginning to discover yourself.

Thank you all again, until next week, my prayers and love are with you,
each one. Farewell.

David G. Schlundt, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Psycholgy
Department of Psychology
Vanderbilt University]
301 Wilson Hall
Nashville, TN 37240

Phone: (615) 322-7800 Fax: (615) 343-8449
Email: David.Schlundt at Vanderbilt.Edu
The divine mystery consists in the inherent difference which exists

between the finite and the infinite the temporal and the eternal, the
creature and the Universal Creator, the material and the spiritual, the
imperfection of man and the perfection of Paradise Deity. The God of
love unfailingly manifests himself to every one of his creatures up to
the fullness
of that creature's capacity to spiritually grasp the qualities of divine
beauty, and goodness.

The Urantia Book

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