Pocatello Transcript 5-1-98
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Sat Jun 6 13:40:55 PDT 1998
May 1, 1998
Sharing and Prayer
Daniel (Bill): I am Daniel, your teacher, friend, companion and your older
brother. Once again my pride in you, my siblings, is justified by the
confirmation provided in your words, but mostly in your actions, which
reflect the decisions of your heart. Your discussion on perfection hunger
as it is distinguished from perfectionism was very enlightening and
truth-bearing. The desire for perfection is the work of God in your hearts.
It is the job of your Indweller to foster such yearning, such stretching,
such growth, for indeed it is the goal of the evolutionary universes to
achieve perfected status as each individual member works for that overall
culmination through their individual journey on the Road to Perfection as
Much of the confusion between perfectionism as you have termed it and
perfection hunger is due to inadequate teaching over centuries of time so
that these notions are attributed, generation upon generation to the overall
mix of cultural error. Many religions have recognized the impossibility of
perfection in one short lifetime, at least for most mortals (the exception
being the incarnation of Michael in which he did achieve mortal perfection
status in his lifetime) - the perfection of a mortal's fullest possible
completion of potential. But these religions have often postulated
reincarnation as inevitable and in this aspect, they are correct, not in
reincarnation mechanics but in the recognition of incompleteness attendant
upon completion of one mortal lifetime career. The notion that perfection
is instantaneous upon passing through the door of death has been
misunderstood by other religions. And indeed it is one of the main goals of
the Fifth Epochal Revelation to enlarge this perspective so that it is
clearly understood that perfection status is the result of a long process of
Therefore, perfectionism is an error in thinking that postulates the
possibility of achieving such status in a mortal lifetime and has been the
harbinger of much sorrow and discomfort, even as Ralph has so ably pointed
out. It is our desire that you fully liberate your perfection hunger while
at the same time, realistically recognize your limitations while giving due
recognition to progress. I thank you for the several responses to my
assignment and I wish that these thoughts now would illuminate your gut
reactions to our attempts at encouragement.
Remember, my friends, that I and other teachers from mortal status
backgrounds are experiencing the beginning the next phase of our ascension
career. We have a much broader perspective, even though we are only a few
years ahead of you, for as time expands, hundreds of years and even
thousands of years are, from our perspective, more like months or years in
your perspective. And now, Minearisa wishes to be present with you and
share his thoughts on this evening's discussion.
Minearisa (Cathy): Good evening, friends. This is Minearisa, your
instructor in residence. Tonight I would like for you to think about a
prior lesson in which we discussed the metaphor of a crystal with many
facets and the fact that many mortals often peer through one facet of the
crystal when there are a rainbow of opportunities awaiting discovery. I
would like to state firmly tonight that all of you have made tremendous
progress in dusting off different facets of your crystals, looking at life
from new perspectives, trying new things, feeling the wind beneath your wings.
I would expand on the metaphor and have you consider this evening two
crystals in the shape of lenses. If you were to think of a microscope, the
light must pass through two separate sets of lenses before focus is
achieved. The lens nearest the object under observation I would like for
you to think of as your Indwelling Spirit that which is always clear. The
second lens is the one you have control over. It is analogous to the
eyepiece which you can rotate side to side in order to bring things into
clearer focus. It is important to remember that you DO have control over
that lens, but that BOTH lenses are essential in order to bring things
clearly into view.
The same analogy holds for a telescope still two lenses are required,
still you have control over that lens or crystal which is closest to you.
And if you take the metaphor a step further, you have in your possession
both the microscope and the telescope. You can use the microscope to look
within at your behaviors. And you can use the telescope to look at the
world around you, to bring that which is seemingly distant into closer view.
I have no particular assignment this week, although Daniel may have further
comment or assignment.
Daniel (Bill): My friends, this is Daniel. I am aware that you have been
diligent and faithful in your pursual of our suggestions, our assignments as
you call them. I appreciate the fact that you have taken the time by giving
thought to these requests on our part. And in so doing you have displayed
your trust in guidance from God. You have allowed those of us who have
volunteered to do this work the pleasure of seeing our teaching take root,
even as we have brought pleasure to our superiors who have evolved further
in their universe careers.
I do wish to commend you for your consideration of my oft-repeated
assignment. It has brought you to a larger understanding of your tendency
to diminish and misunderstand your progress. With the microscope you can
enlarge that which is obscure due to its apparent smallness, and you can see
the wonder of physical creation down to the status of living cells and, with
electron technology, beyond that to the molecular level. This is in the
physical realm, of course. With the microscope of spiritual opportunity you
have focused upon your behaviors and discovered in many cases the origins in
your past, or if you have not been able to get to the molecular level. you
have been able to see the pattern clearly at the cellular level,
analogously, and you have been able to alter your behavior accordingly.
One of the balances which this teaching mission strives to attain is to keep
you in an enlightened status with regard to time so that in the present
moment you can enjoy the smell of the flowers. Not only can you see them and
inhale their fragrance, but you know why they are there, why you are here,
where you have been and where you are going. You illuminate the present
with the destiny of the future and you can accept without fear the lessons
of your past.
I now wish to open this meeting to your involvement. Make comments or
questions as you wish. We will do our best to interact with you. I am
Virginia: Thank you, teachers for picking up on our discussion. I think
perfectionism and the desire for perfection is something that we deal with
all the time; and I have often said I have to be better today than I was
yesterday. But it is very difficult to evaluate ourselves in terms of
spiritual progression. I'm wondering if I'm correct in separating the fact
that perfectionism is a much more material concept or attempt on this plane
whereas the desire for perfection is obviously a much more spiritual goal.
I'm not sure I can separate it that way. I'd like your comments.
Daniel (Bill): As we differentiate perfection hunger from your term
"perfectionism" we focus on the erroneous concept of its possibility within
a mortal time frame. However, if this planet were in an advanced state of
Light and Life, many mortals would experience the fulfillment of all mortal
potential, resulting in perfect union with their Thought Adjusters and
consequent fusion. So when I say "nearly impossible" I cannot rule out
there have been a few who have achieved this perfection status as mortals.
In addition to our Creator Son who had achieved this perfection by the time
of his baptism by John, there have been others, two recorded in the
scriptures of the Hebrews, but others unknown to you. And the essence of
this perfection has been in what you might term "spiritual progress." And
so, Letah, my friend, your comments are most insightful, for perfectionism
as it is practiced on this planet does not focus on spiritual growth, but
rather on aspects of mortality such as intellectual certainty in a "know it
all" attitude or "wishing to know it all" or physical perfection in some
manner or another. And the impossibility of this attainment does lead to a
lack of satisfaction and enjoyment. I thank you for your perceptive
remarks. Your question was well-taken.
Aaron (Cathy): This is Aaron. Virginia, my dear, perfectionism is
different in the material realm and the spiritual realm. For in the
material realm, perfection is synonymous with achieving a goal. In the
spiritual realm, it is the process of achieving a goal that is of even more
importance than the goal itself. For nothing can substitute for individual
experience. Does this make sense?
Virginia: Yes, Aaron, it does. Certainly the book says it very well, that
other entities wish they had our experience. However, there are days I'd be
happy to give it to them! (laughter) Thank you both for your comments.
Steve: Yes, Daniel, I had a question. A few weeks ago, Amy had her candles
go on, both of them. It's happened a couple of times. And she was kind of
wondering if it's her teacher trying to contact her, or if it's the guys are
just making sure they work. And she said she went into silence and tried to
hear a name or something. I think she's getting real close. I just had
Daniel (Bill): My dear Steven, I was present on that occasion as well as
another teacher. As you know, the process of learning a teacher's name is
in itself valuable education. Actually you are both improving in
sensitivity and desire for this experience. I am quite sure this will
result in your hearing a name. Tell Amy she is a much beloved daughter not
only of her earthly parents, but of her divine parents, and that she should
continue to establish her habit of silence and I also tell you, my friend,
that your progress, though frightening at times to you, is most impressive.
Have I answered your question satisfactorily?
Steve: Yes you have, and thank you very much.
Daniel (Bill): You are becoming more aware of my presence at times. Do you
Steve: Yes, I really do at times. It's scary, like you said, but I realize it.
Daniel (Bill): Thank you for your honesty.
Ralph: I have two questions. The first one is if you teachers can discern
Daniel (Bill): We are not allowed access to a person's thoughts without
their permission and the reason to do this would not be to practice
telepathy experience or any purpose which would demonstrate our objective
existence, per se. In terms of knowing your thoughts as you asked it, many
of us who are serving as personal teachers have been with our clients, our
students, for many years. And to the extent that a person is willing to
work with the guidance of his Indwelling Thought Adjuster, we have been
given transcripts, copies, partial information, until that time when our
students consciously recognize us and under the protection, as they deem it,
of their Thought Adjusters, are willing to share their thinking. In the
case of Isaac, this TR, I am informed by his teacher, Alkon, that this kind
of interaction has been occurring for a long time. Alkon does not snoop
through the memory banks of his student, but when there is a concern for
help and to the extent that Isaac is willing to share, then does his teacher
have, through the permission and control of his Thought Adjuster, access to
his memory banks. Have I answered your question?
Ralph: Yes you have.
Daniel (Bill): Does this pose any concerns for you?
Ralph: Not at all. That's exactly the way I feel that it should be. It it
assists your understanding of my question, I would want you to know my
thoughts in that case so you could be more effective in assisting me with
Daniel (Bill): I thank you for this display of trust, my friend, and your
offer is helpful to me. Be assured that your teacher, who's name I am not
authorized to share yet with you, appreciates this confidence. Always
remember that even though your Thought Adjuster knows you better than you
know yourself, that this loving Spirit, this Essence of God within you,
never compels you, never forces, never takes advantage of you in any way.
But when you are willing to progress and to learn new things and have your
thinking change, does this wonderful Mystery Monitor upstep your thinking
and with your decisions, adds more substance to the "real you" your
morontia soul. The infinity of God, the First Source and Center, is beyond
the reach of mortal or morontial comprehension, but the love of the author
of all things, of the very Source of existence, is comprehensible, that is,
is felt profoundly in your heart. It is the will of God that you have free
will, that I have free will to choose our destinies either to assist by
our decisions in our own ongoing transformation, or to resist and shrink
away to the status of non-being. This fact is not a fearful one, but puts
all responsibility on each individual. It is literally true, you can become
that which you desire to be.
Ralph: Sounds wonderful to me!
Daniel (Bill): Yes, it is wonderful. And I attest to the fact that even in
my limited growth in the morontial spheres that I understand this much more
profoundly than you do. I do not say this to embarrass you, but to
encourage you, for you will all grow in the wonder of the marvelous love of
the authors of countless universes and in their wonderful plan of
administration. For God, the First Source and Center, wills that he share
all of Himself that He can. And from this bounty are we all created and do
we all share in our own destinies. Are there other questions for myself or
Ken: Greetings, teachers and resident instructors. Minearisa, I believe it
was about the first of last August that you brought up the crystal, to gaze
into it. I thank you for that repeated lesson in using the two lenses.
Daniel, I thank you for the expansion of that concept. I also thank Lorenzo
for prodding me to read, and guiding me. I think that what you have given
us this evening in that lesson is a lesson I'll be following for some time.
I will cherish it. Thank you.
Lorenzo (Bill): This is Lorenzo. Hello, my good friend. I profoundly
cherish you. I want you to know that you are indeed becoming sensitive to
my guidance as you are becoming more sensitive to all spiritual guidance,
especially from your precious Monitor. Know what a pleasure it is for me to
continue to be your companion. When you hear these things in your mind that
you question, I suggest you let them come through, you control the degree to
which this experience of hearing can be yours. It is not required of you.
If you prefer, you can stay at the level of intuitive emotional guidance and
encouragement. I am very pleased and satisfied with our relationship, and I
sense that this is true for you as well. Be at peace, my friend.
Ken: Thank you, Lorenzo.
Steve: I just wanted to follow up a minute with you, Daniel. I want to
thank you again. I hope you can feel what I'm thinking because I can't put
it in words but what a dear and special friend and the love I do have for
you what you did for Debbie and the friend you were to her. What you helped
her through and what you helped both of us through. And what I meant about
it being scary, it's not scary to the point that
you're more than welcome.
It might be more scary for you coming at me because of who I am it's a scary
thing. (laughter) Dang it, I love having you be there, and I'll be there
for you when you need me.
Daniel (Bill): Dear Steven, know that I cherish you as I cherished Debbie
when she was present on this planet, and as I continue to have the joy of
relating to her. When I said "scary" in your reference I was talking not
about my presence with you, I was referring to your reactions to the newness
of your human experiences now that your life partner is no longer in your
pattern. It is understood that you're not afraid of me, and I will be glad
to share my wisdom and encouragement with you. This is in fact the
arrangement that was agreed upon by my superiors that I could be to you as a
personal teacher. You have been aware of this before, for I have presented
it to you. If you desire other assistance, some mortals have benefited from
female and male duos and this by the way is always a possibility for any of
you. But remember that we are a team, we teachers, and so our love for you
all is involved here. While we are assigned to individuals on their
agreement, we are also available to others, to anyone. This is why I
sometimes visit groups or individuals not of this particular location.
Thank you, Steven, for your heartfelt words. I cherish our relationship and
know that it will bring us both great pleasure.
Steve: As long as I don't frustrate you too much, I'm perfectly happy with
the arrangement right now, you being my teacher.
Daniel (Bill): My little brother, you are not a frustration to me. You are
Steve: Thank you.
Daniel (Bill): One moment.
Esther (Cathy): Dear sweet Angela, this is Esther with a short message
simply that when your level of pain increases it is much like interference
in a TV signal, and you may not sense my presence. But know that I am with
you every moment and that I love you dearly.
Angie: Thank you, Esther. Daniel, I wondered if I could ask
I have been
assigned a mother and a father but I haven't been able to pick up any names
I have talked to them.
Daniel (Bill): Because you are an adopted daughter, they wish for you to
call them "Mommy" and "Daddy."
Angie: I am glad to have them.
Daniel (Bill): Yes, you will eventually know them by name. They wish to
make that loving intimacy real to you.
Angie: Thank you, and thank them.
Daniel (Bill): They are present here. I did not make that up, but was told
that that was the answer they wished me to pass on to you.
Ralph: Is it normal that each person asks one question? I really could sit
here all night long
(laughter) You know, a lot of the difficulties I have
in relationships or just in the way I am stem from decisions I made as a
little boy, the pain that I had, hurts that I received, and chose certain
paths because of that pain and fear. The question is, in order to let go of
that and choose differently, do I have to go through each one of those
experiences and dig it out and relive it and forgive it? Can I just jump
to the top of the mountain? (laughter) Can I take a helicopter to the top
instead of stubbing my toe all the way?
Daniel (Bill): I am reminded of a conversation with Letah with the very
same question and my answer to her was that if your childhood memories are
suppressed and the interpretations of events which those memories entail are
adversely affecting your current living, if they (the patterns of
interpretations of the past) are interfering with your success as an adult
in interactions with others, in feeling good about yourself, in any way in
which you could be benefited, then it is probably necessary to go back and
discover the circumstances of those original thought patterns. But in all
the areas in which your life is comfortable and efficient and you feel a
sense of peace about, it is not necessary that you engage in ten years of
psychoanalysis in order to bring to full consciousness all the material of
your past. Most important, of course, are the relationships that you have
as personalities, for these are the ones that have spiritual significance
your relationship to things as such have no lasting value. You will have to
decide on the criterion of requirement for this introspection. I cannot
offer you a helicopter ride but I am not suggesting that it is necessary to
grovel in the pits of despond, to struggle in the slews of despair, to turn
into a self-pitying victim. However, if you find yourself reacting in a
manner which is out of proportion to the event that is occurring, this is
one clue that something else was driving this reaction, some childhood
misunderstanding or defense mechanism. Do you wish to interact further on
Ralph: No, this has been very helpful.
Minearisa (Cathy): This is Minearisa. My dear friend, you can think of the
unpleasant circumstances as a cup and the denser, more potent layers are at
the bottom the dark layer. And as you get closer to the surface, it is
less murky. Reexperiencing these situations is often helpful in terms of
growth potential when you can reexperience them from an adult viewpoint a
more mature viewpoint. And you can do this in one of two ways, my friend.
You can be a sponge and plunge yourself into the cup, experience it fully,
completely, dramatically, and then wring it out and rid yourself of the
darkness. Or you can take a teaspoon and attack the lighter layers, then
the medium layers, then the dense, dark layers when you feel stronger and
more able to deal with them. The choice is yours. I am finished.
Ralph: Thank you very much. My heart is just leaping, I'm excited. I'm
just beginning to understand what's going on here, but I'm so grateful for
teachers and especially for my teacher.
Daniel (Bill): My dear friends, our pleasure at this repast with you knows
no bounds, but your limitations are real and this is a fancy way of saying
we've run out of time. I will therefore conclude our evening's session and
give you no new assignment this evening.
Ken: The microscope was an assignment! (laughter)
Daniel (Bill): Recall that I said we suggest things which we term
"assignments." You are always at liberty to choose when and if you decide
to follow those suggestions. My sense is that we have given you sufficient
assignments to last a while, and I just suggest you continue your perusal
thereof. With that I conclude our meeting. My love and the love of all
here present be with you tonight and into your future days. My dear
brothers and sisters, we love you all with great affection. Good evening.
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