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Rick P. Giles RickGiles at
Wed Dec 4 08:19:52 PST 1996

Hi Tml,
Yhis is my first aatempt to bring in a transcript using Eudora
Light. Let me know how it works. Thanks

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December 1, 1996
* Aaron (Bob TR): Hello, dear friends. I am Aaron. It is good to be with you today to offer a few
thoughts for you.
As you witness the unfoldment of this mission you can see the beginnings of a long, steady unfolding
process, developments which take years to occur coinciding with your progressive efforts at increasing God-
consciousness and spirit awareness. This plan of progression is as it should be, and with these long range
perspectives your continued development will not be stilted by the disappointments and the upset of unmet
expectation. You are building cosmic stamina, preparing yourselves for a long and arduous journey toward
Paradise. The completion of your journey is as now inevitable and yet you can see that it will be an eternity
of experiences to you before witnessing the completion of your development toward perfection attainment.
We applaud your consistent dedication and effort toward finding challenge and new experience in your
lives and for taking the risks, the opportunities, by the horns and making choices which build character as
well as soul. I have personally enjoyed my tenure, my association with all of you, and I will continue to
communicate as time permits. The developments in your areas are secure enough to see the sprinklings, the
misty beginnings, of light and life as it will develop through your continued dedication toward personal growth
and the subsequent reflection of that understanding for your fellows and the surrounding community.
Continue on with the faith of a child, sure of his role in a benign and loving family, a universe that
is friendly and willing to cooperate with the citizens of Urantia as it makes its way back into the current
affairs and happenings of this universe.
Thank you once again for your love and your dedication. I send you my love as well. I will withdraw
now leaving the space open for other commentary.
* Elyon (Jonathan): Greetings, fellows of faith, I am Elyon, your guide, one who understands, one who
loves you and cares for your continued advancement. I would speak about a topic that brings confusion to some
for it entails a bit of a paradox. It is involving the concepts that include the words of tolerance,
forbearance, patience, and forgiveness.
Spiritual teachings encourage reduction or elimination of judgment as it bears upon the soul of
another, their worthwhileness, the correctness of their behavior.
The famous line "judge not lest ye be judged" has fortunately encouraged many to work in this area,
yet it is found upon reflection that tolerance, forbearance, forgiveness, and patience imply a retention of a
judgment while time transpires in the hope of bringing reconciliation or acceptance. To tolerate implies
putting up with another's beliefs or behaviors, to patiently forbear when your own values differ. It seems
that you still retain a judgment against another. May I turn these words by encouraging you to practice toler-
ance and patience toward yourself, that, until you reconcile your differences, grow in your ability to accept,
learn to tolerate, learn to forgive when you are at odds with another. This is the infusion of love into the
arena of judgment which allows the application of wisdom, the recognition of relative values, allows you to
avoid the pitfall of ignoring the vertical qualities of growth.
Not all beliefs and opinions are equal; in the ascension of a soul there is ranking. But it is not
for the ascender to determine the order of these values in another. When the feelings of separation brought on
by judgment arise, do not berate yourself for such attitudes of judgment. Rather forgive both yourself and the
other as you apply the wisdom that even the gods apply toward the vast diversity of all creation. By doing so
you do not face the frustration of fighting between an ego-derived superiority and the soul-desired equality
over and with another. To tolerate can be more than the tolerance of just the apparent offender; it is twofold
as you undergo the unfoldment of time wherein experience will provide both yourself and another with the
awakenings that bring unity and acceptance.
I do appreciate our time together. I am interested in your welfare, and I recognize your
reciprocation in this regard toward myself and my associates. As you take the time to commune with the Father
and as you boldly challenge your personal frailties in order to grow, and as you courageously seek to offer
spiritual nourishment for others, you walk in the path of Michael.
I can at this time take questions and am always desirous to hear your responses and comments.
Bob: Thank you for being around for the past few years. I don't know if I got the lesson today. I
recall a lesson recently where it was said that there is an acceptance beyond tolerance. Is this true?
* Elyon: You have understood my lesson. Acceptance is the transcendence of even forgiveness. However,
I have attempted to address the quandary revealed when one must accept another when apparent violation of one's
own values is evident. And so, in order to avoid the tolerance in the feeling of superiority over another, I
attempt to help you also to tolerate yourself as you reach toward this acceptance. You know that the Father
has forgiven even before you ask, for His orientation is such that forgiveness, which is time oriented, is only
an indicator of a state of being that the Father is at all times. This I perceive you have illustrated as an
attainment possibility for all ascending souls.
Simeon, I have always been pleased with your efforts in this mission. I am eternally grateful for
your courageous and pioneering efforts in this area. You know, due to my current morontia state, I can be in
your company at any request.
Bob: I appreciate that. I've been thinking about the concept of loving the ego. You can't really
love yourself; you can have love for oneself or of oneself. The delineation I made was that love of oneself is
more an ego based pride. Love for oneself is to respect the personality and the progressing qualities of your
person. Is that correct, or is it possible to love oneself?
* Elyon: I appreciate your work with these subtle words as "of" and "for" for they do provide growth
levers wherein you can derive new understanding and deeper insight. It is possible to perceive that love for
oneself involves your personality's ability to love the factors of your selfhood including the expressive
avenue of ego, the human traits both superior and inferior, an understanding as if your personality were father
and your animal and human aspects were son. You realize the inner spirit is love. That above love of yourself
and love for oneself there is love from oneself. This love is unconditional and in such must be love for
yourself as well as others.
In a quandary as to the meaning of loving oneself, when feeling all too human and not very divine,
exercise the perspective of your Father's presence, allowing the sense of emersion in His presence will help
you to love self.
You have spoken of the difference between the observer and the observed; it is a subtle distinction
but can help to understand where love of self can lead to pride and love for oneself can lead to the attitude
of the Father.
Bob: Thank you. I need to head out.
* Elyon: And I give you my love. (interlude while Bob leaves.)
* Elyon: The midwayers on your planet when compiling their version of the life and teachings of Jesus
deliberately included the many episodes wherein he said, "my hour has not yet come." Although often this was
in reference to public ministry, the time for action, it is a worthwhile phrase to retain when in need of
accepting oneself in light of failure to act according to one's higher ideals, for the coming hour is still
ahead where failure implies the appropriate moment has passed. This is a form of patience, forbearance of
oneself, while awaiting the time when you have successfully and perhaps permanently realized the state you
Due to the fact that my words to you are spread widely, I would include a qualification here. I know
how intently you work toward improving your spiritual standing, your soul growth, the process required to do
so. So, I do not feel this qualification is so necessary to anyone in particular; I must include it for
general clarity. Utilization of the phrase "my hour has not yet come" must not be employed as a form of
procrastination. Patience is one thing; procrastination is entirely different.
Do you have comments?
Tom: I've read in the UB how the master required his apostles to study three hours every evening in
preparation for the hour that has not yet come. This is a good idea, isn't it?
* Elyon: Indeed, and it is much of what the Melchizedek classrooms are about. This study can be in the
form of disciplined reading, even writing, the acquirement of knowledgeable understanding. But it also
includes worship, prayer, and relationship with spirit, and even more broadly means that it is beneficial for
one to work on oneself in order to become a better servant in the uplift program that your planetary
administrators seek to spread abroad in this world.
Tom: I recall reading where a teacher recommended meeting as much as twice a week. We just read that
and went about our business. Would you speak about that again? Is that an admonition that we let slip by?
* Elyon: I offer two perspectives, actually one view with two dimensions. Firstly: as you have been
diligent in paying attention to the lessons and working toward effectively utilizing them in your lives, one
meeting a week is sufficient. Two would be required if we needed to hammer harder on you to grasp what we
encourage you to become. Secondly, I encourage your meeting more often, not to repeat the same procedures we
undertake today, but to branch into other projects, to make a time for application as a group or as a subset of
this larger group.
I perceive much developing. Each of you have notions of what you would like to accomplish, some of
which is accomplished through the enlistment of your fellows' support. If you are feeling that you are not
absorbing our input, then I would be available more often through the week to continue to encourage. If you
are feeling that you are grasping my lessons, then I encourage a subsequent meeting to work towards the
accomplishment of goals and projects you are developing in yourselves. Does this clarify?
Tom: Yes. What are your thoughts about a group in Sandpoint? Is it about ready to sprout? Are
there people available who could relay an instructor?
* Elyon: Yes. Potentials have been developing for some time. To use some of your earth changes
terminology, the seismographic readings show much activity.
Tom: Could you expound on that? Can you give me any direction to facilitate that coming about?
* Elyon: In order for a group to coalesce and continue, focus is an important element and determines
the orientation of the attendees. So, I would ask you to define a purpose and advertise this, to contact
potential group members and inform them of your intentions so that they may make a decision. I do encourage
you to be expressive of your work with us teachers, and I encourage the arena of conceptual understanding that
is The Urantia Book. The effort of this mission is to reach all, so I would not eliminate asking fellows to
attend who are not necessarily readers of the text. But I know you, as one who has been enlisted in the fifth
epochal revelation outreach efforts, would be more happily fulfilled if your focus and content of your meetings
were based upon this great expression of the Orvonton commission. There are hungry souls in your area. There
are readers who long for the fellowship. There are also a few who are quite independent and only need to
experience a group wherein independence is accepted, that conformity is not required.
I hope this provides you with some consideration that you may apply. Tom: Yes, thank you.
Evelyn: I was thinking about what you said about judgment causing feelings of separation. In the
past I thought judgment was a hostile regard toward someone. I was hoping that I wasn't being judgmental in
distinguishing between behavior and an individual. It still seems wise to separate yourself from behavior that
you don't want to emulate. That's not judgment on the person but acting for my own good, to avoid copying or
being swayed by behaviors I don't want to get addicted to. I've got weaknesses and others have weaknesses; if
they choose to do what they do, that's fine. But it does cause feelings of separation. I think I understand
what you are saying, but maybe I have a wrong understanding of what judgment is.
* Elyon: You have very well illustrated the quandary that one finds oneself in when dealing with truths
involved in judgment and nonjudgmentalness and tolerance that leads to acceptance. To avoid judgment in order
that you may not condemn another soul is good. To recognize variable behavior is wise. To avoid condemnation
through nonjudgment at the other extreme is to ignore realities. Here is where tolerance becomes a valuable
intermediary. I intend here to illustrate that tolerance and its related actions are transient processes in
soul growth which must include reflective application upon oneself, for you have even today expressed the
frustration of accepting people while differentiating the merit of actions, actions which as you unfold in your
growth take on new meanings. These new meanings often diffuse the need for tolerance, that understanding that
ripens into love.
To summarize my intentions, forgiveness, forbearance, tolerance, and patience are not to be dispensed
with, only viewed in light of the larger context of judgment, acceptance, understanding, and love, and that it
includes the mirror qualities of applying these to oneself as well as the other. Does this help?
Evelyn: I guess so. If I can be patient with myself, I can go ahead and keep the distance if I feel
that is the wiser course when dealing with my reactions to certain behaviors. I don't feel like I'm judging
their souls. If I don't want to be lazy, I don't want to hang out with "lazy" people, or while they are in
relax mode. That's just an example. I just don't think that I'm judging their souls.
* Elyon: It isn't. It's recognition of a value placed upon the utilization of time.
Evelyn: I can be tolerant while they judge me as intolerant.
* Elyon: The tolerance implies a desire for a change in the behavior. This tolerance ties into your
value, in this case, of utilization of time more actively. It would be better to perceive your tolerance as
accepting their desires to behave such as their freewill right and accepting your desires to do otherwise.
This removes the comparisons. Tolerance is the way to mend the disruption caused when values are projected
upon another independent of their own level of growth.
Evelyn: Thanks.
Tom: Yeah, thanks.
I now take my leave. Farewell. 

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