[tmtranscripts] NET PMG #12

James Travis upwardinward at gmail.com
Sat Aug 28 04:12:17 PDT 2021

*2021-08-23, New Era Transitions Planetary Manager’s Group #12, Machiventa*

Planetary Manager’s Group #12 – (Find this and previous PMG’s at:

Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager


*The work of the 7 core values*

*Use the 7 core values to re-design the underpinnings of your societies*

*Motivation factors*

*Time for social sciences to get off the fence*

*Aligning with celestial helpers*

*Hopes for October meeting*

*Relationship with celestials*

*Social dissolution may not be uniform*

*Becoming creative*

*Who is the “we” in UB 130.2.10?*

*Welmek’s lessons on prayer*

*Praying for sleeping survivors*

*We want to assist you in progressing*

TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD



*The work of the seven core values *

*Machiventa: *Good morning. This is Machiventa. If you could see me, you
would see that I have a great big smile across my face. I would be
radiating joy and good cheer to you as you were with me in person. You are
with me in person; however, you do not have the personal faculties to
actually see me or feel that. I am elated because we can now begin to
reveal to you far more of the work of the seven core values and the
subsequent ethic and morality of those values. We have said that these
values are universal to all people, all humans—universal to the Homo
sapiens species. They are also timeless, meaning that they have been in
existence within this species for over 200,000 years. They are, in that
frame of time, timeless, though they are not eternal or infinite. Further
these values are irreducible. There are no further basic values that
underlie them to explain them. They are as they are, and these values
within Homo sapiens are immutable meaning that they do not change. They do
not shift around to become something else. They are what they are, and they
are that way permanently. Further, when you begin looking at these values
around you and then others, once you become aware of them, they become
self-evident. They've been here all the time and you haven't been aware of
them or able to define them in this way.

Now this is a wonderful way for you to estimate your own moral and ethical
value systems—what's important and what isn't. Whether you are ethical or
not, the decisions and the choices and options that you developed, you can
now assess as being ethical, unethical, or as shades of ethical.

Well, today, I wish to reveal to you another means by which these values,
ethics, and morality can be applied. You are aware of the basic social
institutions of human behavior. You have the family, and this is not news
to you. We also have education, health care, and many others. And now in
each case, within each social institution, are numerous organizations that
stake their function, livelihood, and existence upon their study and their
theories. Now, you can ask an ethicist, for example, what are the
underlying values that prove that your ethical theories are correct and
that they are timeless, immutable, and so on? And they would give you some
sly words like, “Oh, these are ethical principles.” Well, then you would
ask again, what are the values that underlie these ethical principles?
These principles and these theories are not tautological—meaning that they
do not support their own validation. They are simply opinions of someone
that explains human, ethical behavior. And, proscriptively, people should
do this or should not do that, ought to do this, ought not to do that and
so on. Now, that's very wonderful and it has served humanity and your
civilization well for the last 4,000 years. But nonetheless, as useful as
it seems, this is a very immature explanation of those theories. The
problem is that these theories (in the social sciences) are not based upon
universal, timeless, irreducible, immutable, and self-evident truths—i.e.,
values. They are less than that.

*Use the 7 core values to re-design the underpinnings of your societies*

What we propose is that you begin to use these values, ethics, and morality
in design team process groups to revise those theories—to reinvent the
theories that underlie ethical behavior, moral behavior, the work of the
family, of education, and of health care for example. As you can see, if
you really take these ethics and morality seriously, and apply them to all
the social sciences, we could keep dozens and dozens of design teams busy
at a university as they work to revise their traditional theories. This
would be the swiftest means to inform the world about the values and the
work that the university is doing. You can see that there would be a great
deal of interest as individuals around the world began to look over the
shoulders of these design teams to see how it works and see how they are
able to revise these old traditional theories.

For instance, you are well acquainted with the theories of Abraham Maslow.
Well, Abraham did a wonderful job in the work that he did with the theories
that he developed. It helped many millions of people understand the
motivations behind the activities of their lives to progress and develop
their innate potentials. What Professor Maslow was missing, however, were
the seven values that would have assisted him to generate a universal,
timeless, theory of human motivation. Now that is no small statement. That
is not something that you could dismiss and say, “Oh that's just
Machiventa’s Melchizedekian opinion. Well, my friends, it is the truth.
It's the truth because these *values* that are innate to all humans provide
an integrated system of workable, functional theories that integrate with
each other across all social sciences and all social institutions.

If you have ever worked at a university and you have acquaintanceship with
universities and teaching and so on, you realize that I have made some very
outrageous statements this morning. And of course, if you are really good
scientists, you'd say “Well Machiventa, prove it. Just go ahead and prove
it Machiventa.” And we could. However we do have this invisible bridge
between us which I am not volunteering to cross—meaning that I do not
choose to become a mortal being in the flesh during the time that I would
stay here as I did once before. And you are not able to cross this bridge
to our side to have it proven to you by the Life Carriers through our
social science laboratories and our own classes of instruction. This is
something that will have to be done on your side by other mortals who will
be working these design teams to move ahead—knowledgeably, capably—to begin
starting a New Era of the social sciences. As you can imagine, such an
introduction, such a change, would be denied, refuted, deflected, and told,
taught, and discussed as being absurd and ridiculous by those who would
like to stick to the old traditional ways of social science theories.
However, there will be some who will definitely want to engage in a design
team of their own to begin the process of reinventing their social science
based on these immutable values that underlie all human motivation and

*Motivation factors*

For our friend in Russia [JT: Godwin] who has inquired more and more about
the work to find the motivation factor within the gene structure of humans,
this is something that will eventually be discovered, and the genetic
location of these values—what we call motivation factors—will be found and
described. And they will be proven to support the values to which they are
intimately connected. To say seven primary motivators within the human
genome is to say the seven core values. The ethic and morality that emanate
from those seven motivators are the means by which to make the rules by
which to make consistently accurate, useful, functional decisions
concerning many options about life among humans, human groups, and
associations. Those two must go together in order to provide for social
developments and social evolution. The maturity of societies and the
sustainability of those mature societies are totally dependent upon
application of the seven values and their ethic and morality in the social
sciences and in the subsequent application of those rules and theories
within policies from corporations, government agencies, and regulatory

Now, perhaps you can see some of the reasons why we have been eager to
share with you these values and now to reveal to you the subsequent action
that must be taken. These values urge your proactive use, and the ethic and
morality being proactive in their existence, in their being, and then their
functions are the rules which will help your scientists come to positive
ends. Stepping back a few paces, you can see then that your sciences have
been ethically and morally, how do you say,

*Daniel:* How do you say in-between ethical and unethical? [Is it] amoral?
We have that word. Aethical? It's really difficult. Something between
ethical and unethical. Okay, back to Machiventa.

*Time for social sciences to get off the fence*

*MM:* This is Machiventa. Yes, your sciences have taken the middle ground
between telling your political, religious, and other leaders “Shame on you
for doing this or believing that.” And they have also been reticent to tell
those same people and same bodies *what* to do? The time for the social
sciences to get off the fence is *now*. The reason why it is now is because
the downward slope your societies are now on has become steeper, and the
disintegration of your societies and your civilization is, I would not say
at hand, but the roller coaster is beginning to pick up speed. So, you see
that we as your planetary manager guides and our various working teams need
to begin to instill action on the part of these various bodies. You can and
have been able to assure yourself that the Most Highs and their various
influences have been actively working within the bodies—the group decision
making and policy-developing bodies—around the world. It is important that
there at least be some modicum of acceptance of these values as the source
of motivation for human behavior, and that the ethic and morality of those
values also be accepted as a means to provide consistency between and among
the social sciences and their theories.

I am opening for questions if you have any. Thank you.

*Jeff:* Thank you. Good morning Machiventa.

*MM:* Good morning.

*Jeff:* We have, we have not heard from Stéfane for a while, so I will ask
his opening question. How are you today? Besides the big smile on your

*MM:* (Chuckling) Well, this is Machiventa. I chuckle because I truly do
enjoy this playful era in our conversations, and, in fact and assuredly, I
am very joyful today and very happy that you're here to share this
auspicious news with you. Thank you.

*Aligning with celestial helpers*

*Jeff:* Thank you. I have two questions. One is personal, but it may be
something that more than myself is interested in. The other one is about
our upcoming meeting. The first question is: I have an affirmation and that
is: “It is my will, that your will be done. It is my will that I will be a
beacon for the Light of Christ Michael to shine.” I do not know that this
is enough to affect change. Is there a practical method of aligning myself
with the celestial helper or helpers around me to be more effective?

*MM:* Well, you have a very good start Jeff, and we praise you for your
statements. To make your statements very powerful, you would say forcibly
and even vehemently perhaps: “I *will* to do God's will. It is *my* will to
*do* God's will”, okay? And how to assist you in working with your guardian
and your celestial helpers and your Thought Adjuster is that you would pray
to fulfill God's plan of life for you, and that you call upon all the
celestial, angelic, and divine assistance that is around you to support
that command. As God's plan of life for you is its plan, then your
willingness to do that would be an alignment with God's will, and you can
do no wrong by asking, urging, perhaps commanding your spiritual assistants
to assist you to unfold, unlock, and empower God's plan of life for you.
Now, it does not make any difference whether you are seven years old,
seventy years old, or 107 years old when you embark upon these statements
and call upon the celestials to assist you in the fulfillment of your life
plan. You can surely resonate that they will do so. What you then must be
attuned to is what This One calls the signs, symbols, and omens of
following God's will. Remember, your life plan is, in your lifetime in your
terms, a path of life where you have certain places or stops along the path
where you engage in decision making that helps to fulfill the plan, and
your spiritual and soul growth. Their work—the spiritual beings around
you—are there to assist you in this process. There is no higher good that
you can will into existence for yourself and for your helpers to assist
you. Thank you.

*Hopes for October meeting*

*Jeff:* Thank you very much. My second question has to do with our October
conference. Could you share with us your hopes or intentions of what we
will learn at the October gathering?

*MM:* This is Machiventa. And I can say a definite yes, that I can answer
your question, and I have the full assistance of all my Melchizedek team
members from the various teams that we have. And the intention of this
event is to teach people how to *work the process—*meaning that this is a
system of inquiry that produces positive results. You can see then, how
this intention and this workshop dovetails well with the opening statements
I gave you a few minutes ago. It is our wish that we can use this process
to bring intellectual integrity and philosophical integrity to the social
sciences that complement each other so that there is eventually an
integrated system of thought for the social sciences individually and

Now, you know that the design team process is a linear process. However,
there is a certain synergy that does develop which then can engage this
integrity of these values and the philosophies that emanate and spin out of
these values. Does this help?

*Jeff:* I think it was a great promotional ad.

MM: (Chuckling) Our forte is not marketing as we play the long game and we
strive to use mortals to assist us in this marketing process. Thank you.

*Jeff:* Thank you.

*Rick:* Good morning Machiventa. This is Rick.

*MM:* Good morning.

*Rick:* My first question to you is, may we ask, how large is your
spiritual team this morning?

*MM:* Well, you may ask that, and you are reiterating a question that was
asked not too long ago. I would ask you to relate to us the importance of
this question and how you plan to use the information I give you.

*Relationship with celestials*

*Rick:* Well, I think that helps us as human beings feel a little closer to
you in the group if we know how many and maybe we know that you're not all
Melchizedeks. From what I understand, you know *much *about us. We
volunteered to be a part of this group and you're allowed to visit our
thoughts which we have voluntarily offered to you. It just seems like a
two-way street is kind of a nice way to develop friendship and love amongst
the group.

*MM*: Thank you for your question, first of all, and second, it is not a
two-way street. Our work is to assist you to go deeper into your own mental
and spiritual existence so that you can communicate with your Thought
Adjuster more clearly [and] more effectively. If you want to receive
feelings and the emotional impact of a personal relationship with a
spiritual being, we suggest that you do so with your guardian angel and
with your Thought Adjuster. A more distant individual would be your
celestial teacher. This is not a feel-good enterprise that we conduct every
two weeks with you. This is information. Some of it is very difficult to
share with you, and we know that it is very tough and even tougher for you
to receive it. This is a statement of our presence. We are here. If you
don't believe that then the numbers would not count for anything. We ask
you to have faith in yourself to know these things from your relationship
with your Thought Adjuster. Thank you.

*Rick:* Well, that's a disappointing answer, but thank you for taking the
time to answer the first question. The second is really a clarification.
Are we to understand that our scientists will find a physical location in
the human body for the seven core values?

*MM:* Yes, definitely so. The life carrier laboratories have done so, and
they are in place now within you and everyone else. Thank you.

*Rick:* Is this a new development or has it been with humanity throughout
our history?

*MM:* These motivators are timeless, meaning that they have existed in your
genetic structure for the duration of the existence of the Homo sapiens

*Social dissolution may not be uniform*

*Rick:* Okay, thank you. My third and last question is, when you mentioned
(I hope I'm accurately summarizing your statement) the partial dissolution
of our societies as it proceeds. Will it apply equally to First World,
Second World, and Third World nations equally?

*MM:* This is an alteration of a prior question which we have answered. The
more primitive the society, the more capable they are of surviving the
changes that will occur around the world. There is a certain protection in
ignorance of the ways of modern society. Whereas, in fact, more primitive
societies, cultures, and ethnic groups are only in the minds, in the eyes,
and evaluations of those who are more technologically advanced. In many
ways these primitive societies are far more advanced spiritually,
ethically, and morally than the Western world. Thank you.

*Rick:* Thank you for your answer.

*JT:* Liz had a question, but she left the meeting. I have some questions
from readers. David asked some questions about a paper on the TM Russia
website. It is a transmission from you, Machiventa, through Michael
Levasseur in September of 2017 (document number 549) regarding some
predictions of earthquakes and such. Are you open to his questions
regarding the things in that paper?

*MM:* This is Machiventa. The questions that David has would be best
presented to the originating T/R as his database was used to provide the
answers from myself, Machiventa. Thank you.

*JT:* All right. I also have questions from Tom. He refers to a passage in *The
Urantia Book* and I'll read that passage. It's paper 130 (130.2.10). The
author is talking about Jesus’ trip with Ganid and Gonod through the
Mediterranean region. The paper reads:

“It was on this same day that we first heard that momentous truth which,
stated in modern terms, would signify: ‘Will is that manifestation of the
human mind which enables the subjective consciousness to express itself
objectively and to experience the phenomenon of aspiring to be Godlike.’
And it is in this same sense that every reflective and spiritual minded
human being can become *creative*.”

*Becoming creative*

Tom asks: What is meant by every reflective spirit and spiritually minded
human being can become creative?

*MM:* This is Machiventa. I see that some of our students are asking very
astute, insightful questions. In regard to the word reflective, this means
to reflect upon the situation, upon what is needed. It is not to
reflectivize as is used by the Deities to see an event as it occurs in the
moment—to see the event simultaneously with its occurrence. The reflective
moments mean that the individual is engaging their will to reflect upon the
topic which they are examining. The will-mind of an individual offers
objective clarity to the human mind. If you are able to sort or discern the
difference between the work of the will-mind and your subjective mind, then
you are open to immense and tremendous growth and service to your own
growth and evolution, to your fellow brothers and sisters on the planet,
and to your society as a whole. I thank you deeply for your question.

*JT:* Can you expound on being creative?

*Daniel:* This is Daniel. I didn't hear that in the questions. Please
repeat it.

*JT:* He says, what is meant by “every reflective and spiritually minded
human being can become creative—explain the depth and breadth of that last
phrase “can become creative.”

*MM:* This is Machiventa. Yes, there's no mistake in the use of that word
creative, meaning that the individual can bring into existence that which
is needed through the will mind—THE will mind that is connected directly
with the Thought Adjuster. It is important that the individual understand
this connectivity—this connection—as it is vital. Any mortal aberration to
this creative moment would then nullify the creativity that would be
invoked. We wish you to know that you have access to the divine mind within
you through your will-mind as they are deeply connected. The capability
(understand the word *capable* please) is that you have the capability of
acting, working, thinking, and producing results that are reflective (to
use that word) of the God spirit within you. This is more than sufficient
to answer the questions involved and should produce much thought in
individuals who examine this question and my answers carefully. Thank you.

*Who is the “we” in UB 130.2.10?*

*JT:* Okay. And he's curious about something in the paragraph I read. He
would like for you to explain how or why the Melchizedek, Primary Midwayer,
and the Secondary Midwayer groups first heard these teachings. Who are the
“WE” in the statement: “It was on this same day that *we* first heard that
momentous truth…”?

*MM:* (Chuckling) This is Machiventa. Congratulations to you, Tom. We have
been wondering when someone would ask the very obvious question. It seems
self-evident to us that it would be asked. The “we” is the collective
we—the union of consciousness that was embodied in the Melchizedeks and the
midwayers who were involved in the production of *The Urantia B*ook and
were witness to those moments with Jesus. As you know from your own
experience within a Urantia Book reading group, you come through a passage
that you have read many times and you come away with a new *ah-ha*, a new
insight, a new revelation. And my friends, that is the same experience that
Midwayers and Melchizedeks and even Angels experience as well. When we
examine our transcripts of those moments that we recorded by the means of
reflectivity, we have those transcripts on hand. We examine them and we use
them as the means for writing The Urantia Book. It was the assistance of
several Melchizedeks that assisted in the specifics of the production of
that book. This is one passage which we hoped would eventually become
revealed to you, and you, Tom, have seen through the whole process and we
thank you for that.

*JT:* Liz is back in the meeting, and she had a question before. Do you
still have a question LIZ?

*Welmek’s lessons on prayer*

*Liz:* Yes, good morning Machiventa, this is Liz. I'm delighted to be back
with you again. I had some computer problems this morning, but here I am,
and I hope that this will work. My question may have already been answered
by your previous answer. I would have to go back and read the transcript,
but I've been reading (studying actually) teacher Welmek’s sublime lessons
on prayer. One of the techniques he talks about is when you want to pray
for a person, you get to know them well enough to know the area of their
pain and that is where you inject the will of the Father, and I found that
to be quite a wonderful technique. I'm wondering if there is a similar
technique for praying for someone who I don't know at all.

*MM:* Yes, you can do so in a similar manner. You would pray for a person
who you have not met, do not know the specifics of their malady, and that
you ask spirit to bring healing to the area of need in this person. Your
Thought Adjuster can be involved in this if you ask it to connect with the
other individual’s Thought Adjuster and your guardian with their guardian.
This gives you a somewhat transparent means of assisting the process of

*Praying for sleeping survivors*

*Liz*: I have a follow up question if you wouldn't mind Machiventa, and
that is: Some dear friends of mine have recently passed on. Of course, I
don't know if they're sleeping or if they're on the Mansion Worlds. Is
there a technique for praying for them?

*MM:* This question of yours gets into some of the work of alternative
religions, and also mainstream religions such as the Catholic Church—to
pray for people who are in what they call purgatory which we would know as
being the sleeping survivors. The means of praying is not fast but
certainly tempered by the ones who would respond to your prayers. The ones
who respond to your prayers are the Ancients of Days and those who make
decisions concerning whether an individual sleeping survivor transits to
the morontial real realm or not during the time of resurrection at a change
of eras.

Certainly, your prayers do not fall upon deaf ears, so to speak, of those
who are in the management and care of those souls and those who make
decisions concerning the afterlife of that individual. We would not make
the assumption that these individuals are all worthy of transit to the
morontial realm as some may be known, to those who adjudicate the lives of
individuals, to have been or of such lack of value that they would not
transit to the afterlife but would be brought to conclusion as those people
who do not become sleeping survivors, but those who are adjudicated not to
survive at all. The decisions of course, are always in the hands of the
mortal during their lifetime to do God's will or to refuse to do God's will
and repudiate the existence of God in their life.

Your question is fraught with many avenues and facets of consideration as
we hope you see. Take this into consideration for the answers I have given
you. Thank you.

*Liz:* Thank you very much Machiventa. I appreciate your attention.

*JT:* That's all the questions we have for today. Machiventa, do you have a
closing for us?

*We want to assist you in progressing*

*MM:* This is Machiventa. Yes, most certainly. We who are involved in the
management of Urantia—of this planet—are always forward looking. We are
always preparing for the next phase of the evolution of this planet,
particularly of its civilization(s). We are here to assist those to survive
[and] to assist individuals to *not* become sleeping survivors but to make
the journey after their mortal death—their journey to the afterlife—to the
morontial realm. This is our best situation until the days of light and
life when people go to the halls where they enter into the immediate
transition/fusion with their Thought Adjuster and transit *immediately* to
the morontial realm in that regard. Therefore, our answers many times
regarding historical praises and situations are only provided to assist you
in integrating that information into your future existence. It is not that
we refuse to answer you objectively, but that sometimes it is not worthy of
an answer to do so. This has no demeaning application to you as a person,
to your soul, and so on. It may have application to your ego, however.

Yes, these closing statements today may be a bit edgy for you, but we want
to assist you in progressing—that you would overcome your ego, that you
would overcome your fears, and that you would embrace your future as it
will surely be in front of your face today, tomorrow, and every day
forward. How you approach those days is a meaningful statement about who
you are and what you have become and what you will become. We're here to
encourage you to become (verb) to the fullest extent of your life plan that
is possible, and we are here to help you unlock that potential knowing that
God is in you. And so, we work with your Thought Adjuster intimately with
you to become all that you can become during this mortal lifetime as the
seed pod of potential for what you become in the afterlife and your
morontial experience and your spiritual experience and onward to the
eternal. Thank you and good day.

*JT:* Thank you Machiventa, and thank you, Daniel.

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