[tmtranscripts] NEC #74, July 25, 2016
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*New Era Conversations #74 – Spiritual progress; Culture bending; Prayer –
Jul. 25, 2016*
*Machiventa Melchizedek*, Planetary Prince and Planetary Manager
Individual spiritual progress
Personal destinies for the global population
Finding those who are motivated to join us
Preparing for medical needs after the cataclysms
Human motivation to be involved in this work
Bending the culture slowly over time
The religion of life and living through experience
Making our democratic processes more effective
Concerning grant proposals
How does the political split in our country affect the race consciousness?
Personal questions on prayer
Suggestions for those who do not hear their Thought Adjuster
Spiritual needs vs. material needs
Machiventa’s closing comments on ascension
TR: Daniel Raphael
Team members: Roxanne Andrews, Michael McCray and a Student
*July 25, 2016*
*Individual spiritual progress*
*MACHIVENTA:* Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, your Planetary
Prince. I am always delighted to come here and speak with you, to tune
into your minds and to listen to what is going on in the depths of your
minds and your words and your vocabulary and your social interaction with
yourself and with others. Through the months and years we have seen
progress in you—this NEC team—and we have also seen it in those who
persevere to read these sessions diligently and to follow what is going
on. The work of a Planetary Prince is of no value if it does not bring
about the transformation of the individual from the inside out, from the
intra-social interaction that one has with themselves in their thoughts, in
their minds as they rehearse the day and prepare for the future, and also
with the interaction with others. We have seen much progress by those of
you who pay attention to the words and are striving to integrate them into
your own minds, your own lives, and your own behaviors, in your thoughts
and your words and your social interaction. So, we salute you and we thank
you for this; you are the testament of the work that we are doing that you
show that there is positive results in what we are doing.
*Personal destinies for the global population*
Now, to extend that to the rest of the world and to the 7 billion plus
people who live on this planet. And always, when you think of these terms,
think of these projects and programs and think of the individual and how we
must infuse this thinking into the individual so that they carry that
forward into their families, their communities and organizations that they
work with, and are in a professional association or other groups of people
who they associate with. It is through this interaction that the work of
Christ Michael is carried forward, and this prepares the minds and the
hearts and the souls of individuals to receive their instructions from
their Thought Adjuster to engage their personal destiny. And yes, each
individual does have a personal destiny that is awakened by the person
asking questions about their own life, and hopefully that will begin early
in life, rather than later.
You may proceed with your questions if you have any at this time.
*Roxie:* Machiventa, this may be related to what you have just said. I’ve
been reading some transcripts from the 11:11 Progress Group and I was
interested in their discussion in 2015 about “Destiny Points,” mentioned by
Ophelia. Can you give us more information on that, please?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, most certainly. There are individual destiny points in
a person’s life, and sometimes they conjoin the destiny points of other
people. In the first case, this is the destiny project of your life and
that you come to certain important and critical points in your life where
you make a decision, or you make an observation and you act on it to change
your direction or what you are doing, or where you are going, or the group
of people that you associate with. Sometimes these are those critical
junctures through the loss of a parent or partner or child, loss of a
job/employment where the predictability of the past is suddenly smashed,
and that your life seems to be crashing around you. Those examples seem
pretty obvious that those are junctures or destiny points where your life
can change through your awareness, where you take a “time out” to slow your
life down or reflect on your life and rebuild your life. Sometimes these
destiny points or junctures are not traumatic; they are not destructive,
but rather the summation of a growing feeling within the individual that
causes them to wonder whether their life is on course or not. Sometimes,
this is the awareness that you are in the wrong job, and that you need to
change your job, or that you are with the wrong partner and you need to
change partners in order to change your life.
Oftentimes, most often, people are totally unaware of their destiny.
However, there are only a very few, a very small minority or small number
of people who are aware that they do have a destiny and are engaged in life
to find it, and so these subtle destiny points soon become a burden and
that there is a sense of feeling within themselves that they need to change
their life, even wondering what that would be. There is the other layer
where I just mentioned that sometimes the destiny points are in conjunction
with that of another person’s destiny points. This should suggest to you
that there has been collaboration before birth between Thought Adjusters or
your Destiny Groups. We are unable to thoroughly explain this to you at
this point, and do not want you to speculate about that. However, it does
involve your preparation for this life.
You can also “take it to the bank” that your Thought Adjuster and your
Celestial Teachers, Midwayers, and Angels have already consulted with each
other to assist you to come to these points of juncture with other people.
You can see this throughout your political and social and economic
history. It is more easily seen in large scale changes of a society where
one individual changes the course of a culture. You can point to those as
a destiny point that changes the lives of many people, and so these destiny
points come to help a society progress; they help to bring about social
evolution. Of course, at the individual level, it is the social,
psychological, and spiritual evolution of the individual that will assist
them to will to do God’s Will—not passively but actively—and to consciously
and intentionally do that so that they can get on their destiny path. I
hope this helps.
*Roxie:* Yes, it does; thank you very much! I do have other questions but
they can wait if someone else would like to jump in on this topic.
*Student:* May I ask a question, please about this destiny point? When
you feel as an individual that the situation has arrived in which you are
guided—like I was guided when I met a certain person and came here—when you
realize that this is happening and you are going along this pathway, and
then down the road you realize that maybe . . . does it ever happen where
that person that you felt has guided you towards coming here when you met,
that there is a parting of the ways? I don’t know how to explain this, but
you know where you are going and then all of a sudden you are not on the
same path together?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes. Sometimes when people come into your life, that they
are agents of change for you, where you might not see where you need to
move ahead in your future to relocate. Another person comes into your life
and they motivate you to change locations, and then they might fall away
and take on their own life’s course. There is nothing wrong with this; it
is simply positioning you in the right place at the right time to work with
the right resources that are available to you now. Your own personal life,
from what I see, is exactly this situation. It is developing in ways that
you had not foreseen four years ago.
*Student:* Yes, Machiventa. This is true and the person that helped me to
change my mind to come here, we have become great friends, but I am sure
you are aware that I really didn’t want to bring this up, but there has
been a sort of block between the two of us, and it is to do with the 6 core
values and social sustainability. I am really trying to figure out what I
can do and I haven’t got any answers. But anyway, thank you for your
*Finding those who are motivated to join us*
*MACHIVENTA:* If I might continue that thought…, as we have said, we do
not “sell” or “persuade” or “market” or “convince” people that what we are
doing is “right.” We are looking for people who see that this is something
that they need in their life, and they are motivated to join with us. This
creates the strongest team bond and usefulness among people.
*Student:* Yes, Sir, and I agree with what you are saying. It is just
that this person is speaking against it and I have a hard time dealing with
it. But thank you anyway.
*Preparing for medical needs after the cataclysms*
I have no more questions on that subject, but I have other questions. I
have a question from one of our readers. He states he has a friend who is
on medication for schizophrenia and he is concerned that the friend may run
into trouble if the drug he takes for his illness becomes unavailable in
hard times. He asks, “Is there any advisable way this person, or others,
might end the taking of these drugs, without reverting back to their
symptoms of schizophrenia?” That’s one of the questions. Have you got an
answer for this?
*MACHIVENTA:* It sounds like he wanted a very definite answer. Let me say
this: The mind that you were given, and the mechanism and its operation is
what you have. There is a certain amount of change that you can bring
about in your own thinking—let me go slowly—and there is a certain amount
that others can do to assist you to reprogram your mind. In cases where
there is chemical imbalance, that this is a life-long occurrence, just as
some children come into a developmental psychosis in their late teens and
early twenties, where there is no evidence of it before, this will continue
throughout their life. This is a part of the maturation of the brain organ
as it comes into maturity in the mid-twenties and even into the early
thirties. The minds that you have at that time are the minds that you will
have until you pass from this realm.
In the case of the individual who has this schizophrenia and the medication
assists them greatly, this should be a major concern of your disaster
managers in your society. The emergency management planning for most
communities deals only with the physical infrastructure of society. The
concern that your friend has for the availability of that medication, in
the case of a social disruption of a major sort, that should be a concern
of your state and national leaders. However, we do not see that topic on
their agenda at this time. The unfortunate result when you project this
into a region where there is major infrastructure disruption of the economy
and roads and highways, and the passage, the death of individuals who make
the process work—for instance in the pharmaceutical distribution
process—then you will see the outbreak of much mental illness among the
population. This will be a cause for great consternation among the
population, who do not have problems. And for those individuals, who have
mental illness problems, it will be an incredible disruption in their lives
as they see what is happening to themselves and that they are losing the
capacity to function normally or functionally in their society at that
time. The best possibility that a person can do would be to stockpile this
medication, though there are limitations by which the Federal authorities
allow for this sort of thing. This is not a good news message, I’m afraid.
*Student:* So when you talk about emergency situations, it applies to not
only schizophrenia, it applies to all types of drugs where people are
dependent upon them for their living and their existence?
*MACHIVENTA:* Exactly. Whether it is insulin for diabetes, or whether it
is medication for some mental illness problem that is treatable by
medication and is no longer available.
*Student:* Something like this should be activated, I would think, like we
have our own emergency system here, and this should be activated here—not
necessarily on a Federal level or a provincial level. Would it be wise to
do it that way?
*MACHIVENTA:* Usually, pharmaceutical limitations are mandated by your
Federal governments. In the United States, the Federal Drug Administration
limits dispensing only 90 days at a time to individuals. It used to be 30
days, but now it is 90 days, mainly because of the abuse of using these
drugs and keeping them and housing them, or reselling them by the
*Student:* So, Machiventa, what is your suggestion, please, about
approaching on my level? Who would I approach?
*MACHIVENTA:* You would want to discuss this with your Emergency
Management Organization, whether that is the Red Cross, or whether that is
your local Emergency Management. Your City Manager would have information
about this and could advise you how to proceed. You would want to have
this problem on the agenda of Emergency Management so that there could be a
sustained distribution process for those critical life and psyche
*Student:* That’s fantastic! Thank you, Sir. There are going to be a lot
of questions coming up about that, but for now, I will do just what you
*Human motivation to be involved in this work*
I have another question, if that’s all right. I know that over the time
I’ve been involved that we are planning/preparing and helping to change
things in the world. What I would like to see, if this is all right in
saying, that the people who read these transmissions, I would like to see
them ask questions of ways in which we could go—regardless of what is going
to come—to go more positively and more spiritually and to look at dealings
with all these things that are coming and happening and changes. To look
at it in a way that we are not only transforming ourselves, but we are
transforming the world. I know this might be a bit idealistic, but I think
it can be done and I’d like to see more of people who are involved in these
transcripts and reading them to get involved and start asking more
questions. That’s all I have to say for now.
*MACHIVENTA:* The key to your statement is human motivation. What would
motivate individuals to be more concerned about their situation or life,
and to ask questions about how to act to improve their situation? Your
question provides you with an insight into the reasons why we have changed
the format of our work through the Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission
over the years; it is through the lack of motivation of individuals to take
this work seriously and to see how they can apply it to their own life.
For many, these transcripts are just “entertaining spiritual fiction,” that
they provide a hope and a way of remaining positive in the face of great,
tremendous difficulties that the evening news brings to your homes every
day. This may sound like a cynical statement on my part, but it is simply
an observation. We have made these plans and have presented them and
developed them in a way that individuals can pick up these transcripts at a
time of need, and to begin applying the principles that the [transcripts]
contain to their immediate lives and to the reconstruction of their
families and communities, and further, how to improve the quality of the
lives of individuals who are law abiding and competent, responsible
citizens. From our perspective, we have just made the necessary
adjustments that we can and need to, to engage a receptive audience when
they are able to bring their own lives forward to do this work.
*Student:* So, what else can we do?
*MACHIVENTA:* You are doing it right now and we applaud you and compliment
you for participating actively in this, and in your own home location you
have begun to bring these questions of social sustainability forward, as
well as the principles and values, and how this can be applied to your
local community to improve its future, the next generations.
*Student:* But Machiventa, it still doesn’t seem to be enough!
*Bending the culture slowly over time*
*MACHIVENTA:* We would agree with that. However, we accept the situation
as it is, and to bring about the forces that will bend your culture slowly
over time towards the situation where conscious social evolution has
progressed to the point where many people are receptive and able to engage
their own lives and their destinies for the betterment of their society,
even without being consciously aware that they are doing so.
*Student:* Thank you, Sir. I have no more questions right now.
*The religion of life and living through experience*
*MMc:* Machiventa, would you tell us more about the religion of life and
looking to experience?
*MACHIVENTA:* Would you define that more clearly, please?
*MMc:* Not too long ago, a couple of sessions ago, you defined the
difference between what we see as religion in this world—for Catholics,
Protestants, Islam, Jews, etc.—you made a differentiation between religion
as it is viewed in this world and the religion of life and living through
experience. This was more involved with the religion that hinges around a
relationship with the Father.
*MACHIVENTA:* Well, you have almost answered your own question. Truly, in
the religion of life and living, it is your living faith that you have in
your personal life as you work with the Father to develop your life and to
fulfill your destiny and bring about a successful and peaceful next
generation. The religion of life and living is not in the churches; it is
out in the community, it is out in your personal life, it is within you, it
is the intent of your life and the conscious effort of yourself to join
with the Father to bring about your conscious spiritual evolution.
*Making our democratic processes more effective*
*MMc:* You said that you were taking steps to make our democratic
processes much more effective. Would you tell us a little more about that,
*MACHIVENTA:* We have alluded to this in the past and it will be revealed
through the actions of individuals as they bring these thoughts forward.
As you know, there is a tremendous disgruntlement in the population of the
United States about both candidates, and that the area is in even broader
disgruntlement about the operation of their State and Federal Governments,
and the effectiveness or efficacy of those processes. If you see this as a
push to bring something into existence then you would need something that
would have a “pull,” that would pull people into a new process, a new
direction, a development of democratic process that aligns with the
existing process, but which brings about tremendous realignment of the
public with their public executives, and the policies of their government.
I speak in very nebulous, global terms, but I wish not to jeopardize those
efforts which are now being brought forward and developed. You—meaning the
general public—will be surprised by what comes through the back door.
There is anticipation for many political efforts that may develop into new
themes in your country and other democratic nations, but the improvements
that we see will come out of what you call in America, “out of left field,”
to surprise most everyone and to be of such a nature as to cause no
disruption to your existing political processes, but to make it much more
effective to the great disgruntlement of those people who are in power.
*Concerning grant proposals*
*MMc:* Thank you. Can you tell us, please, about the status of the plans
you originally requested from our audience? Are we going to revisit those
plans at some point?
*MACHIVENTA:* The question is too vague to answer, Sir.
*MMc:* If you’ll remember, some time ago—a month or so ago—you asked our
audience to think of plans that they would project if they had the money to
do it, what would they do to make plans for their future, or to help the
future of Urantia.
*MACHIVENTA:* And your question is?
*MMc:* Well, are we going to revisit those plans, or is there . . . have
you thought about when we might revisit those plans, or are we going to
look at them in some way?
*MACHIVENTA:* As I said last time, or the session before, is that this
operation with you is co-creative. You take one step; we take one step.
Initiation by mortals to begin something is primary to us making progress
with you. We can set up the field so that individuals are motivated to
make changes, and when they do, we will respond. But when people see that
they can do nothing, or that they think and feel helpless and they do not
take that step, then we have nothing to work with. If you see no evidence,
then we see no evidence. We see much more than you do, but outwardly, if
you see no evidence then there is none. This is co-creative. The whole
health, social, and spiritual health of your world depends on individuals
taking action that agrees with social evolution that is constructive and
helpful for individuals, families, communities, and nations.
*MMc:* I have no further questions at this point.
*Student:* May I please ask a question about these plans that you were
talking about, Michael? (*MMc:* Certainly.) I guess I misunderstood it
too, Machiventa. I thought we were to draw out plans, and then we would
discuss them. But from what I understand now, these plans that we have, or
are drawing up, it is an ongoing plan and as we work with you, together, we
can create—hopefully—the final results, maybe? Is this right?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, you yourself are working in your community; you have
made plans, you have met with people, you have discussed these things, you
are engaging local issues of significance to your community and to your
culture, and you have engaged these and we are assisting you.
*Student:* Okay, I see now, and I am going forward with the thought from
last session about drawing up an outline on both social sustainability and
material sustainability. And I am getting assistance, and I thank you so
*MACHIVENTA:* (Laughing.) Exactly. Your life, your experiences are the
living answer to your question, and to the former question.
*Student:* Thank you, Sir. It is wonderful.
*How does the political split in our country affect the race consciousness?*
*Roxie:* Half of our country is praying for social evolution that somewhat
mirrors the 6 core values, while the other half prays for the opposite kind
of change. How does that affect the race consciousness of our country?
*MACHIVENTA:* Powerfully! People across the board, across the world
generally know what is good for them and what is not, and what is of a
long-term solution and what is a personal and selfish solution. These 6
core values resonate with individuals at the deep level of their lives, and
that the short side of that is that individuals—other individuals and even
those same individuals—do not trust the long-term prospects of this coming
about, so they revert back to their selfish inclinations that you call race
consciousness. Our influence is to bend the race consciousness of the
cultures of the world towards the benevolent engagement of these values in
the lives of communities of individuals, families, communities and
nations. Our efforts are to change the race consciousness to one that is
beneficial, is even celestial, as it approaches the Days of Light and
You are at the basement level of your cultural situation, and many nations
around the world that you have seen in such distress are below the basement
level. Their lives, their cultures are going down the drain in that
basement, and so it requires us to be of influence to help the general good
of the world. These are all very grand, large scope projections I am
making, I know, to answer your question, that culture bending and changing
race consciousness is a very slow process. You have seen the bending of
race consciousness and cultural consciousness in technologically developed
nations towards more aggressive, animalistic, competitive race
consciousness, the worst side of human nature to occur within the last 600
years. It is important that the process we begin now becomes a “conscious
process” by individuals to engage the conscious social evolution of your
world. This can take place even with a small group of people to affect the
whole of your world and your world’s civilization within 50-150 years. You
are at the very beginning of this process and you perhaps may see very
little progress before you pass from this realm.
*Personal questions on prayer*
*Roxie:* I find it easier to worship the Father than to pray to him,
because I trust that he already has our best interests in his hands, that
his Will is already dominant, unless human free will interferes. Do human
prayers really matter, especially when we always pray that his Will be done?
*MACHIVENTA:* First of all, it is wonderful that you pray. It is a
wonderful habit; it is a wonderful practice to engage on a daily basis, and
as you become more acquainted with your Thought Adjuster and you are able
to converse with your Thought Adjuster, this praying, so to speak, goes on
throughout the day. Worship, on the other hand, is that magnanimous
self-forgetfulness of yourself in immense, ecstatic gratitude to the
Creator for all that you have, all that you know, and all that exists in
you at that moment. This is the total giving of yourself to the Father,
without any regard for return to yourself. You know in that moment of
worship that the Father, the Creator, has all “good” for you for all your
The use of prayer is highly useful. It is hoped that people, individuals,
would develop a self-directed life to grow in ways that sustain the
universe and their relationship with the Creator, and their Thought
Adjuster within them. You are not an automaton; neither are you a knot on
a log just watching the sun go up and down for a lifetime. You have an
active responsibility to act in the commission of your life and much more
error can occur through omission than most often occurs through commission
in the lives of good people. If you are to become a Creator Son in the
eventuality of the seventh stage of the Grand Universe, then you must begin
to act like one, and to work like one, and think like one. You must take
the risk of not knowing the way and learning from the Father’s direction,
which is the right way, and how to submit to the Father’s Will by also
projecting what you think you need in your life to do so. We are not
talking about a new car, a new house, or the best school for your children
to go to, though of course those are not out of the realm to arrange with
you through letting them occur and submitting to the flow of the universe
energy in your life. Remember, what you hold in mind manifests in the
world. This is basic spiritual metaphysics, which is how most of life
operates when you are in a faith-lived-life with the Father as your model
to go by. Thank you for your question.
*Roxie:* I assume that when we pray, the prayer is really for our own
benefit, mainly. Does the Father ever truly act on what we ask for that he
wouldn’t take action on if we hadn’t asked it of him?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes and no. Remember that what the son requests, and the
Father agrees to, IS. And you are a son of God; you are a child of God and
that what you ask for which is in alignment with the Father’s Will
manifests. Your life and your living is to learn how to become more in
oneness with yourself and oneness with the Father, and oneness with your
neighbors. Prayer is not only for yourself, but it is for others as well.
You can pray for others without return to you and be quite effective in
your prayer work. Remember, that the universe is at your beck and call;
that once you are in alignment with the good of the universe that you can
be an agent of good in your world. You have seen healing in other
individuals due to prayer; you have seen right circumstances come into
existence, due to prayer from many other people. You are to pray and pray
and pray without acting in your life as a means of improving your prayer
power, but remember, as the Quakers say, “You must pray with your feet as
*Roxie:* Does the amount or substance of our prayers affect our level of
spiritual growth, or morontial standing? Are we graded on them?
*MACHIVENTA:* No, you are not graded, Dear Heart. It is the qualitative
aspect of your prayers that is most significant. What most people guess
about and have not been taught by their religions is how to pray
effectively; how to improve the qualitative substance of your prayers.
This is a slowly learned process as you release yourself to the Father’s
Will by allowing and actually authorizing, and not only permitting, but
asking and calling your Thought Adjuster into your life, and that you will
to do Its Will. The number of prayers is not important; it is the
qualitative state of your mind’s existence that is most important. Those
who are in alignment with God are in “prayer” constantly with God.
When Christ Michael, as Jesus, went away for a time, he lived a dual life
and in his prayers he joined into union with his Father to discuss the
process and the progress of his work, of his lifetime in revealing the true
nature of the Father to the Hebrews and Israelites at the time. And so, he
was in conference with God at that time, and in prayer. Prayer is not
asking; prayer is in oneness with Father; prayer is a means of releasing
yourself to that oneness so that you gain the essence and presence of God
within you that speaks through your life. Then in the quality of your
prayers, you exude the “God-ness” within you. It is not that you need to
stand on the corner of the street preaching God’s message to individuals to
demonstrate that you are in alignment with God. Surely, God knows when you
are and when you are not, and you must be in prayer to assess where you are
in your relationship with God. Yes, only you can exercise the practice of
prayer, and by doing so you become more “expert” at living who are you
becoming. Yes, prayer is solely for yourself, but not selfishly! In doing
so, you engage the universe and you make a contribution to the oneness and
the expression of God in your life, and to all others that you meet.
*Suggestions for those who do not hear their Thought Adjuster*
*Roxie:* I have always had a problem with prayer. It just seems like
worship is so much easier because there is so much to be thankful for. I
still do not know whether I am following the leadings of my Thought
Adjuster, since I am not able to hear him directly. Do you have any
suggestions that I haven’t already tried?
*MACHIENTA:* When you do not hear, then you look to your life. Is your
life in order? Do you have a means of supporting yourself? Is your house
in order literally? and figuratively? Are you able to be of assistance to
others around you? Do things work out for you? Do you meet the right
people? Do the right circumstances come about that help fulfill your
needs? When you are living your life in order and in oneness with the
Father, those things that you need suddenly appear, or they gradually
appear. Your life comes into order and there is oneness and harmony.
Even if you are looking for a used Coleman stove for camping, and you walk
into a store and there is a great sale, and you buy one, or some neighbor
says, “What do you think I should do with my old camping gear? I want to
get rid of it.” The answer is there for you. This is living the life of
oneness and harmony, when the needs that you hold in mind are manifest
outwardly. You do not need to think of this as a prayer, but it is a state
of your consciousness, which is most important in your spiritual progress.
For those who do not hear and cannot hear to discuss that with their
Thought Adjuster they can see this manifest in their life.
*Roxie:* Thank you very much, Machiventa. That is all the questions I
have. Did anyone else think of more?
*Spiritual needs vs. material needs*
*Student:* I would like to ask a question about what you just said. I
don’t understand when the needs that you manifest in your mind are met
outwardly. I always thought that the needs that you manifest in your mind,
if they are to be met outwardly, would be spiritual needs, not material
*MACHIVENTA:* I chuckle because that is a religious answer, that when you
are in harmony in the universe that what you hold in mind may seem
significant, but is provided to you and somehow you come into contact with
this. Perhaps you are looking for the right and perfect bib for a
grandchild, and that you haven’t found it. One day you are rummaging
around in a consignment store or used clothing store for newborns, infants
and children, and you find this bib that is still in the package and has
never been used, and you see that it is exactly what you have had in mind
for a long time. This is a manifestation of good outworking in your life.
What many people get wrong, especially in spiritual and Christian
metaphysics is that this is some kind of a conjuring up of some magic way
of bringing good into their life in a material way. This is totally
opposite. You are in alignment with the universe and so the Father takes
delight in bringing to you what you need, or you go to where your needs are
fulfilled easily, and comfortably and patiently. The state of your
existence begins in your mind, and your peace and your world begins in your
mind. Some people can be in great turmoil around them, but they are
peaceful in their mind and they are not affected by this. Your life does
not necessarily bring harmony in your life, especially if you are working
with people who are outside of harmony. This can be very disquieting to
you and upsetting to the peace of your mind. It takes a great strength of
character to maintain that peace in all situations, and even Christ
Michael, as Jesus, was challenged at times by those around him who were at
such dissonance with their oneness with the Father, and the respect for the
Father’s Universe and the world around them.
Your spiritual engagement and growth of maturity begins on the inside; it
begins by your hunger to know the truth and to be in oneness and to live
your life in peace. So, you discover those means to do that. Some people
find that through Taoism, some through Buddhism, some through meditation,
which may be disconnected to any discipline, but they live a life
peacefully. One of the greatest hopes that you can have for your life is
that you live a life of ease without striving—that is very comforting, and
you see many people who live in impoverished situations who live a life of
ease without striving and who are comfortable with that.
*Student:* Thank you, Sir. I have no more questions.
*Machiventa’s closing comments on ascension *
*MACHIVENTA:* Let us close our session today. Your ascendant journey is a
life of living on the outside with the growth on the inside. Life on a
planet as yours, where you live as agondonters, where there is no eminent
visible Deity, or evolved individuals around you to give you comfort and
sureness of the universe. You live in a slow, learning process, one where
if you look only to yourself and your life’s experience to grow into your
wisdom, and to your insight, your spiritual development and unfoldment goes
rather slowly. When you are in consultation with others who live a similar
life, you learn more quickly and it is possible to pass this on to your
children as well. When you enter the morontial realm, your progress will
be immense and it will be quick. It depends on your own integration in
your own mind, and your willingness to engage the outer evidence of
spiritual development around you to grow quickly, if you consciously and
intentionally engage your spiritual/morontial growth and will to grow. Yet
there will be individuals who are still struggling with the outside and
inside problem, struggling on the outside because it does not match their
expectations of what this afterlife is all about. They will have
difficulty reorienting themselves to a new regime of spiritual ascension,
where they thought their old religion provided all the answers. Your
struggle here will continue in the afterlife if you are resisting the
evolution, the spiritual, social evolution of your life now.
It will not be much easier for some of you who resist adamantly, and even
some of those who resist so adamantly will give up and will choose to exit
the stream of life to meet the Father. Your journey begins here. To live
in alignment with the oneness of the Father is an immense project, an
immense challenge that begins early in life, and if you were not given that
guidance early in your life to grow that way, then you must learn to do so
on your own. Sometimes that is through tremendous travail and agony, and
the existential crises of your life as you engage the reality of living
your life in peace and harmony, or one of difficulty, challenge, and
competition. It is your choice. The way is made forward, and we are here
to reveal that to you. We wish you a good day and may the light of God
always precede you in all your efforts. May you project your own
engagement consciously with that light so that you are one with that light,
and you lead yourself as well as the Father leads you into the future and
the development of your life, and the oneness with the Father who is within
you. Good day. ##
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