[tmtranscripts] Michael 10.19.2010

JERRY LANE nytrayn at msn.com
Sun Nov 21 13:54:19 PST 2010


Dear Kathy and everyone, Please excuse my losing track of this devoted work of transcription by Kathy. I intended to edit it to my own more familiar syntax, sentencing, and paragraphing but haven't found the time; plus it is mostly understandable as it is. I enjoyed reading it and I think it answers some questions about Michael's abilities to respond, that occurred to one of the participants. So thanks again, Kathy. JL
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From: Kathleen L. Huntley<mailto:nox2386 at blackfoot.net>
To: JERRY LANE<mailto:nytrayn at msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:40 AM
Subject: Sept 30/Transmission:




Here it is Jerry - Oh my! It took forever... Cheers! Kath








-SUBJECT: LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE
SEPTEMBER 30, 2010

TEACHER: MICHAEL


T/R: JERRY LANE



Dear Michael and Mother Spirit, dear Devine Parents, dear old friends welcome, welcome, always welcome. I am always inclined to say “Come be with us and then I realize you are already here, you are always here so let me make that - help us be aware of your presence. Help us be aware that you are already, and always have been a part of our lives, literally a part of us.
Michael you are the spirit of truth: that orientation to this wonderful curiosity of wondering what is this? What is true here in this moment? This orientation towards an unfolding adventure that you reassure us, and help us accept this unfolding reality that has no end. Mother Spirit your holy spirit is literally part of us. Dimensions of our own intrinsic abilities of intuition, to just being to know things immediately, without any intermediaries. Then to accumulate this sole wealth of knowledge, and to correlate all that knowledge, a thousand ways and understanding. The courage to do what is difficult– if you fear, anxiety, uncertainty, pain. The courage to attempt what is difficult in your holy spirit of counsel that helps that innate ability we have to know others and to be known. That ability of yours to help us be aware of, and appeal to spirit to appreciate the creation and through that our love and appreciation of the Creator in worship. And the final ability of ours, that you use so greatly, the ability of all of this to really gather together our soul-wealth and wisdom. For this dear parents we thank you for being a part of us and a part of our lives. Amen


Michael: Dear children, dear friends, this is Michael. And yes we thank you for your greeting for we are indeed a part of you. This is our glory. This is our wonder at being a creator son and creator daughter of God. That we have such companions such dear friends as yourselves. It helps us honor and appreciate ourselves, our father’s creativity. That he created such beings as you. That he endows you with not only your own unique personalities. Every one of you unique, unique in all the creation. But also he has endowed you with his creative spirit. This absolute power that literally brings something out of nothing. It gives you this potential to be free. You are a personal being, not an impersonal energy or object. You are not bound by antecedent causality simply that which came up to this moment but in this moment, in this eternal now our Father shares with you creativity. And it literally comes right out of you.
Just as God is like one of those surreal paintings of yours. Like a fountain out in the middle of the air bursting forth. So you are also a lot of little fountains like Mother Spirit and myself. Like all personal beings of thousands of different orders. This is what personality is. It is an intrinsic part of nature of personality. For as we have taught there is no impersonal spirit abroad in the universe. Spirit is a creative power of a personal being. So this very creation itself, as the creation itself points at a creator, a first cause, so it also points at this nearly limitless creation of personal beings. It points at this absolute reality of personality itself. What it is to be a personal being. If it helps your philosophy, think of this as a primal division of reality into impersonal reality. Energy and material that are based strict cause and effect as you have chased it now right down into the subatomic realm and the nono-second of continuity and still haven’t reached any bottom, or top or sides. But it obeys the absolute causality of God’s will. It is impersonal. It is! And from one moment to the next it is utterly predictable, if as yet beyond your science. For also your science, your understanding of this continuity has no limits.
When you get to a personal being you are getting to a creation of Gold’s. A being that he is endowed with an ability of his own to create and therefore, as he ordained it, this being is now free. This being, you, are capable of coming right up out of yourselves with something that gives you a choice. You have everything, all that has led up to this moment this eternal now. But in this eternal now you have this potential, this possibility to originate something out of yourself, out of your own uniqueness. That exists, that has existed, nowhere else up to this moment. And, to the very degree you can realize this creativity, you can have some choice, some alternative, in addition to that is simply is already. This is the power he has endowed you with. This is what it is to be a spiritual being. This is your essence my children.
You are a spiritual being and whether you are consciously aware of it or not you are co-creating your experiences of reality. Moment by moment, in this eternal now, you have not only what has led up to this moment, in a sense what you have created and what you have been presented with all through your life. In this moment you have the potential for something new. This is the essence of freedom. This is the essence of your, we say ‘your relative autonomy” within the cosmos. Because it is not yet for you - unlimited. You are starting out on an eternal adventure. You are just beginning to grow a soul. You are just beginning to accumulate experience. But, you are not necessarily bound even by your own experience. By your own understanding. You are co-creating your experience along with all of that out there, all that is not you. You are very complex beings my children (laughter). Unlike some other orders of personal beings you have a physical body. A living physical body that is an infinity to you. It is your experience of this body is also co-creation. You are aware of how it changes. Sometimes moment to moment with excitement, fear, anxiety, delight. All your sciences and all your libraries have not yet plumbed the depths of this living tabernacle in which you dwell, is composed of. And for each single one of you as you live, as your body changes, so your experience of it changes. So we often say you have a body/mind because they are so totally inter-related. So co-dependent. How your mind reacts influences how you perceive your body and vice versa. What you do with your body, what you put into your body so profoundly affects your mental state and abilities. And so as a spiritual being you are not only presented moment to moment with this body/mind of yours it is how you are interpreting this, what value you give it.
What value you perceive and recognize and really are creating in your life. This is spirit. It is spirit, your spirit, that evaluates your life moment to moment. If you think about it this is incessant. Moment by moment you are evaluating what is happening to you. What you are doing. So, strictly from the standpoint of your personality, even your own body and mind, is somewhat other. It is not entirely yet under your full realization and control. This is another aspect of your growth. As it gets some control, some realization, some unification, even of your own body and mind and they are not unlimited either in extent or duration. This very body and mind that connects you with its perceptions to the rest of the world, will go. Your only lasting possession is your soul. This is wealth of experience you are accumulating.
You are growing. But it too is a gigantic reality my children. That is co-authored by the presence of God within you. So, even your own soul is an infinity to you. You really have to sit down and suspend all the rest of the world just to enjoy a few moments of pure soul of pure reliving, as if for the very first time some other part of your life. And so your soul is a spiritual construct so much greater than you might say, just your physical memories. Your soul is the fullness within your memories. And you do not fully realize your own soul until you become one with its co-author. Until you become one with the presence of God within you.
Now if you think of how you grew into life starting as a little baby. Then for how many years you weren’t even aware of this body and mind of yours. You weren’t aware of having teeth and a tongue and chewing. You were just absorbed in the food. You hardly were aware of those little hands reaching out. You were more interested in those toys and those things to get hold of. You weren’t aware of your feet, you were just aware of being able to move around, to run over here and there. It might have taken some of you years and years to be aware of mirrors and that person over there. That person who made you aware you had a body. And the mind was just a tool you used. And how limited it was at first because is all collapsed from time to time. Try as your best the whole world just collapsed, fell all apart, some terrible terrible aching thing and then you sat there bawling until you could slowly, ever so slowly catch your breath and start again. Little by little you became aware of yourself. You got this “self-conscious self”. Your ego began to grow. All of a sudden there was a “Me” in your reality. And there was all of a sudden a “mine” in your reality. This is “mine”. For even little fishes can be possessive of their accumulations. Even birds can be territorial.
So, indeed you are a very complex being (laughter). Some say this is a curse but what a gift it is. Mind, Body, Spirit, Soul, Ego. And how your personality can identify with each in turn or all together. And so you see my children how it is not only the evolution of culture all over the world, all those hundreds, even thousands of little mini-cultures all over the world not only that but the evolution of your own life. How difficult it is, at times, to convince people - persons, you – that human beings are spiritual beings. They are co-creating their own experience of life and to that degree responsible for what is happening to them. When so many live in an agony, so much suffering based on not realizing this is a very fundamental fact of human reality. To not only they, but also every one of those that they come in contact with, is another spiritual being, another unique personality created by God. To be able to respond to all that you are and all that is happening to you is indeed humbling, is it not? All that encompasses you. All that has its affect upon you. All that you yourself are constantly creating. Your attitude towards all of that and your interpretation of all of that. All that you are and have been. What a miracle!
What an amazing thing this life of yours is. But this then is a spiritual blessing of humility, of being able to be aware of all of this. Even Mother Spirit and I are somewhat in the same situation. We too must humbly acknowledge and thank our Father for even being able to perceive, to be aware of this encompassing of his that is an infinity in every direction and every dimension. And the very fact that here we are. Moment by moment. Every moment we are complete, as all the rest of his creation, and yet by his will what you call ‘time’. This eternal now is in motion and here comes another moment and another, like it or not. This is his will and here it comes. To welcome this will of his. To welcome, even to enjoy and appreciate and worship this creation of his. Me and you – and each other.
This is our responsibility. This is our blessing to be able to grow this innate desire, this innate ability to respond. Especially to each other. We acknowledge that only God is responsible for the creation for only he has that ultimate, even the absolute and infinite ability to respond to all that is.
Still we can reach out to him. We can orient ourselves towards this truth, this adventure this unfolding and say, “Thank you dear father – thank you for me - that I am. Thank you for this adventure that you lay out for me”. On into an unending infinity of you to discover, to grow. And so thank you my dear children, my dear friends for coming along with me on this ride. This appreciation of all that we are, even beyond our ability moment to moment to understand. The strange, magnificent reality in which we are a part of our own encompassing. Now if you have any questions or comments this evening I am always glad to have some conversations with my friends.


Q#1: Does that include all of us Lord? Can we ask a question too?

Michael: Oh absolutely

Q#1. Thank you. I would like to know, if I may, how does Spirit see and hear and smell? Do we have the ability to have our spirit see, hear and smell just as we can sometimes read each other’s minds if we are sort-of advanced, or are we truly engaged with another person we can perhaps do what spirit can do? Perhaps even more deeply now? Can we develop that ability?

Michael: My daughter there is no limit that can be put upon personality. This essential reality that you are, this unique being that you are, neither in extent nor duration. As long as you are associated with this body/mind in this first life of yours, there are limitations. There are – these limitations are with respect to what you can grow into. At each moment, as I tried to express this evening, there is - you are facing a kind of infinity of what you can do. So, all this is an unfolding, even of your own potential. The way you put it ‘ you don’t know what you can do until you try’. That is a rather broad answer, but there is no way to pin down, and that is a blessing, what all of your capabilities are. You just have to try and then be really honest with yourself as to what the results of this experiment were.

Q. Yes, I see. Thank you – thank you so much.


Michael: Let me throw you a challenge.

Q. OK


Michael: This will be with you forever so you might as well get used to it. The greatest challenge of any personal being, in your relating with our father, is to open yourself in prayer and meditation, and ask of yourself and of the whole spiritual community, ‘what is the best thing to do next?’ That is kind of scary is it not? It is also opens a door to potential. It is truly humbling.

Q. I will do it. What is the best thing to do next after prayer and meditation? OK – Thank You.


Michael: In prayer and meditation – yes.

Q#1: In prayer and meditation

Michael: One of the most sincere prayers you can ask of yourself and of the presence of God within you and you can do it anytime. Be conscious of it.

Q. Uh huh Wonderful, Thank you


Michael: You are welcome my daughter. Be in my Peace.

Q#1: If no one else has another question I have one more.


Michael: Sure

Q#1: OK – The woman who touched your hand received energy. The same we are to give out to uplift people. But, she was a believer. Is that paradigm necessary? Must the person be a believer before they get the greatest transmission of our own energy? Is – or is that not necessarily the formula to best help and save souls? Can we have one formula for that? I guess what I am asking is can I still plant the seed in a non-believer that did the same thing as when that women touched your hem. Can we still give that energy or does she or he have to there to receive it with a certain willingness to believe, a certain faith? Or do we have so much to give to them and overcome what they don’t have?

Michael: Well now my dear you are asking the very nature of love itself.

Q#1: Yes

Michael: Love can just be a total ‘beam me out’ of well wishing towards another. That will affect them, but not always consciously. Think of the difference between belief and faith. Belief is a kind of a construct within you. It is like you have your own personal philosophy of life. It is what you are doing your best, moment to moment to understand all of reality. What you believe is true. But, by that very nature it is a time/space construct that hopefully, is capable of growth, evolution. Faith is the ability to extend yourself beyond belief. That is why it is so closely allied to courage. It is so closely allied to power. It gives you an ability. And, so it is more or less your faith in the very power of love that enables you to beam this power out. This good wishing toward someone else and then faith is rewarded in fact. Something happens. Faith is a unique power that lets you do things beyond your belief. It is not a suspension of belief; it is a going beyond belief. Then it is rewarded in actuality. Something actually happens because of this faith that nothing else can do. And it is a very special reward. So, yes, by all means, your faith in the power of love. In your own sincere, good intentions – again there is limit again how that can affect someone else. Because they have, in addition to what ever they believe, they have the presence of God within them. They have a personality – and they can recognize a kindred soul – irrespective of their belief. It simply helps when then their belief system, if you will, has this possibility within it. It makes it easier for them to recognize the love you are sending them. But, the love you are sending them and its affect is not dependent upon their belief. If their belief is such that you can help them recognize what you are doing that reward is that much greater for both of you. But, as you love, and as that love has an effect, so it can help them – so shall we say, evolve their own beliefs.

Q#1: Excellent. Thank you so much. I love you Michael.

Michael: Thank you my daughter. Mother Spirit and I can feel that. That is part of our glory is to feel that love.

Q#1: I am glad.

Q#2: How are you doing today?

Michael: Hello – Go ahead.

Q#2: I bring you greetings. Thank you for the work you do. I am so grateful and appreciate your blessings to our lives and I am really desirous to see that many more people get to tap into the ministry of the Teaching Mission and I know that it is becoming a reality. More and more people are becoming aware of monjoronson.com and TM Archives. It is a beautiful thing you know. I just wanted to say thank you for the great work you and your team – you know – Machiventa, Monjoronson and the others, Mother Spirit and so many others involved in this massive work. Sometimes it seems to some of us the progress is so slow that change on the planet is so slow. I would like to say one or two things to encourage such individuals and sometimes, some Light workers tend to get saddened by the forces of evil. They feel the forces of evil are so strong and it is so difficult to push for change, for positive, progressive changes in government, in politics, in religion and in every area of life. Even in material prosperity, because … in poverty in different parts of the world. And few people have so much money. The Light workers get tempted to feel, ‘this is so difficult, I’m not going to see this wonderful, positive changes of prosperity, material prosperity, righteousness, justice, peace in my lifetime.” And sometimes it weighs on them. I would appreciate it if you would give a word or two to encourage such people. Then, on a different note, if you may choose to talk about it, this idea – this concept of inner earth. You know life in inner earth. We have seen planet earth but, in the inside of this orb called Urantia there is this life in existence, many many miles down the surface of planet earth. Maybe up to 800 miles down. There is this world (unknown)…that is used to peak that denotes this other life when brothers and sisters existing within inner earth. If you want to talk about it I’d appreciate it. I know for some reason sometimes some teachers don’t want to talk about it. I don’t know how you feel about that. If you want to talk about that. I am interested in the brotherhood of man on the surface of planet earth and also connecting (unknown)… other planets and also what exists within planet earth. If you want to talk about that I’d appreciate that as well. I will go mute and listen to your comments. Thank you.

Michael: Yes my son. It is always helpful to keep in mind that what you perceive as evil is largely reactive. It is almost defined by the absence of true creativity. Of never – of poor human beings never quite coming into this eternal now and experiencing the full power of their own creativity. Of never touching – never growing and touching an inner spiritual home base. Of never having this. So much of what they are doing is coming from a position of fear and of reactivity. Of feeling somewhat helpless in the stream of events. So, in a way, lacking that appreciation, that worship, that thankfulness for their life, for all those around them, they are always, as you say, behind the curve, always just a moment too late. Never being able to feel and accept the responsibility of this co-creation that they are involved in and what is happening to them.
What has happened to them is as much their own doing as what appears to them appears simply as ‘what was done to them’. With this orientation, with this basic philosophy of life and understanding that they are not responsible, they are cutting themselves off from their very own power of genuine creativity. They, in a sense, make all that fear and apprehension disappear. It is those who view themselves to be powerless. They are extremely dangerous because there is no limit what they can do in this feudal (?) – seeking more power ever more power. If they can’t realize the power they have, that they are responsible for what is happening to them then they have no ability to respond to it.
So, keep this in mind. That is where love is the only thing that can conquer this. It is your own creativity. You own being ‘in the moment’ and accepting, welcoming, your own ability to respond. In a sense it keeps you out of that subtle trap. This is where you cannot simply respond in kind. Because again, you are merely reacting to their reactionary behavior. It is your own creativity, your own freedom, from however they are presenting themselves. It gives you that liberty.
Also my son, keep in mind, as you live your day-to-day life, as you come in contact with others, through your power of creativity, love and appreciation and worship, you are literally demonstrating what is possible. And, so you might perhaps kind of capture their attention, peak their curiosity; get them to wondering about your freedom, and about the fact that you are not merely reacting to them. The Urantia book calls it a spiritual fragrance that you have. About your whole being and the way you are handling life. This is what you are offering to them. You are, if you will, teasing them out of themselves. To be spontaneous, to be free, to realize their real power. You have that rather cynical political maxim that ‘power corrupts – and absolute power corrupts absolutely’. Which may have a certain validity in political and social, economic realms, but in the spiritual realm my son, absolute power corrupts absolutely no one. For it is your Saints, your folks who have lived their lives for others that really had the real power. And so, as they say the challenge is for each one of you as it is for me. It is not what is the easiest or the hardest but what is the best thing to do next.
You can start every day with meditation or a dozen times a day to stop and wonder. Open yourself – open yourself to your own wisdom and your own love, your own spiritual nature and the presence of God within you. Dear Father – help me know what is the best thing to do next. Totally irrespective of whether you can do it or not. That is the courage of self-honesty is to know the best thing. Whether you can do it or not! Then, all the rest of it falls into place. Then the world is transformed and you see there is no need for patience. The spiritual evolution of the world is not some slow dragging process. But the human race is on a roller coaster and always has been. Things are moving so fast especially now. You have some poor folks saying “slow down. Too much, too soon”. The reactionary. So open your heart to them my son. Send them your love. Realize the pain they are in. Let your love and this consideration help transform you as well as you hope it will transform them. And be in my Peace.

Q#1: That was beautiful

Q#2: Well thank you Michael. Do you want to talk about inner earth?

Michael: What is that again?

Q #2: Would you want to talk about inner earth? Life in inner earth?

Michael: Enoch?

Q#2: I-N-N-E-R E-A-R-T-H Inner Earth. Life within the planet. Human life, intelligent life taking place inside planet earth. …Am I coming clearly to the TR?

Michael: Excuse me son, I can’t quite understand that.
Q#2: I think it is my unusual accent. Maybe the TR is not picking it up. The second part of my comment was about inner earth. Life within planet earth. Inside planet earth. OK…

Michael: Yes I understand you my son. To me this is a concept that has a certain validity in a kind of a spiritual way in understanding forces and that. But there is literally no personal life within the earth. It is, as your science offers you, the vision of a – the world is actually a purely impersonal reality. There is no inner life in that sense beyond that which exists on the surface of the world.

Q#2: OK – One of the reasons I brought it up is because in some circles we hear about the Galactic Federation and this idea – or this reported facts that the Galactic Federation … within inner earth. So, if you go down through the oceans for example, there are different entry ports. So, some of the entry ports are through the oceans. So you go down down further down, away from the surface you can get through an entry port into inner earth as it were. I have an idea or an illusion of the Galactic Federation … within the planet earth as it were.

Michael: Yes my son, I understand the concept now. But, that is only a symbolic meaning. It has no actuality in the physical world. It is literally, as your science is projecting, you go down through a very kind of a surface that is sitting on a molten layer of magma and as you go into the center of the earth it is as your science projects it –you get to a solid core. Of the heavier materials and such with temperatures greater than the surface of the sun. Much as your Urantia Book describes it. But, these are – this is only a combination of what you would call geologic forces. There is no personal beings other than those on the surface.

Q#2: I got you.

Q: #1 Michael is it possible that sometimes people can create scenarios through great desire. You say anything is possible. But, this might even be counter productive. Sometimes family members who are grieving firmly believe they see members that have passed on or graduated. I used to contradict them saying there was no way spirit is going to come back to do something trivial, although I know exceptions can be made if there is an important reason for them to come back shortly after death. But, I thought they were doing it to themselves to make themselves feel better. Creating a scenario in their minds, but they insist they really do see people who have recently passed. I am thinking for instance of my father who recently passed and my sister saying she saw him. Shall I just let them believe what they need to believe unless I’m asked for my opinion? Anything is possible but it just makes me feel like I am so wanting to enlighten someone who knows nothing about the Urantia book so – the foundation would be difficult for me to begin to talk to her about why I know they cannot possibly cross over once again after they have graduated.

Michael: Yes my daughter. I think you have a good grasp of the situation. Without that frame work of understanding about – first of all what the personality is and then with the very psychic circles, what happens to people - different individuals as they die. Those, which join the ranks of the sleeping survivors, those which you know, are -relatively more quickly find themselves on a Mansion World as they cross over very quickly. You have to consider them the efficacy, the very purpose then of what you are attempting to do. If it is not within their belief system, here again, if it is not within their belief system, you can only make, shall we say, certain suggestions. But, what is the point? If your sister has these experiences they have this, what you might call a relative validity for her. What is the point of trying to prove something one way or another if the ability to recognize that that proof is not there? It would be merely destructive unless it is somehow or another. This whole sense of dealing with ghosts, which do not exist. The Urantia book is quite succinct between the unconsciousness of the last moment – right before death and reawakening on the Mansion World. The personality simply resides with God. It has no way of manifesting itself. Without that understanding it is almost pointless to destroy what is a very valid psychological experience.

Q#1: I can see that now. Absolutely

Michael: Here you can simply, if they are open to it, kind of tease, lovingly tease with notions if she is open to exploring this whole realm. In this case you are merely offering to add to it rather than destroy what is if it is not being destructive to her. If her belief system is not hurting her in any way – that is just her belief system. It is a matter of love to acknowledge that. It is enormous love just letting people be. Just enjoy them as they are.

Q#1: Yes – enjoying them as they are. Got it! Thank you.

Q #3: Michael?

Michael: Yes

Q#3: Would you allow me to … further on the previous question. I think there is a little bit of confusion of what we have been learning from other sources. I’ll rephrase the question a little bit. Would there be physical beings of extra-terrestrial origin meaning those not of earth civilization. Are they somehow influencing our earth in anyway whether they exist in other star systems or they exist in maybe caves or some civilization on earth that we don’t know about? Would these beings possibly be influencing our civilization in a way that would affect … time or Monjoronson’s Magisterial Mission or the Teaching Mission and things like that. Do you understand my question?

Michael: Yes my son. I take it you are referring not to the spiritual community literally, but to physical beings. Beings that have some physical ness. In a sense requires some form of starship or whatever have you to be here. And no, they are not influencing the course of human events.

Q#3: That would be the question – the broad question.

Michael: (Laughter) That is it in one sentence.


*The Telephone Connection with Caller #4 was not as clear as other connections. Periodically there was a static that made accurate transcription difficult.



Q#4: Michael may I ask something then, maybe on the component that you referred to of the spiritual economy or the spiritual levels of personality who are - The Urantia herself. The Planetary Supreme Urantia. The evolutionary – the representative, or the Planetary Supreme who is the evolving actualization of all of our choices who we contribute to bring into our personality level at some future point beyond light and life. Could we – Is this our true concept?

Michael: Yes my daughter, there is a manifestation of – The Supreme is that dimension of reality that is a consummation, accumulation of all the personal experiences. In that sense the Planetary Supreme is an evolving entity that like the Supreme Being is an evolving manifestation of evolving time and space events. It is contactable, but as it is hard to say how this registers in the human consciousness as something again is an enormous encompassing that is more felt as a presence because if you stop to consider the supreme being of the whole evolution of all of humanity on this planet. Ever since Andon and Fonta that is something that would have for you, shall we say, a kind of a presence or any kind particularity or specificity within this would be less than what it is. What I am saying is the Planetary Supreme can only register as a kind of presence beyond that you are getting into some very particular notion of it. You would be breaking it down into less than what it fully is. Do you see what I mean?

Q#4: Yes, certainly. And the glory of being human is in the cosmic circles is to become aware of responsibility, Cosmic responsibility in our own actions and daily actions. Loving people as they are, loving the work that we do. Conquering our inclination to wallow in self-pity, observing evil. All of those things. We contribute, if we are wanting to contribute to the supreme as a presence or as anything we can really understand. We can only really see the Supreme as our little own miniscule contribution. But we are aware of our contribution. We are aware of looking around us and seeing the world but, very specifically in one particular spot in time and space and loving that moment – that eternal moment of being able to choose for you in your will and your Father’s will to move that momentary inch toward the realization, the actualization towards the Supreme.

Michael: The planetary Supreme is part of the encompassing in which you live. But it is so far beyond, just like the Supreme Being is so far beyond human comprehension. As the totality of all human life of all human experience. All your soul in a sense. Think of the World Supreme as the World Soul. As the soul wealth of the planet and all the millions and billions and trillions of human beings have lived this is so far beyond human comprehension, yet it is part of the encompassing in which you do live. It is part of the spiritual community if you want to look at it that way. Of all the other spiritual beings that are on the earth. The Planetary Supreme is some really awesome reality that you can only be aware of in this sense as part of this incomprehensible encompassing in which you live. And, this way the appreciation of that is kind of like your own soul acknowledging what it must be like even as your imagination can best supply you with some form. But it is quite formless in that sense. Any kind of form you give it is so much less than what it is.

Q#4: And then how do you as Michael, as Michael a Master Son..Me asking you? Well Well …. You as a Creator Son and Master Son and as Urantian, have a perspective of course that we can never have but we can share .. .. and encourage ought daily moment-to-moment to do what is the best thing to do now – not just for the moment, but also because we are contributing to the Planetary Supremes over souls.

Michael: That is wrapped up, in what I talked about tonight. Being aware of the fact that you are co creating. You are involved in what you are experiencing. This wondering what is best to do with your life, even moment by moment. It would definitely are reaching – it is like opening yourself to this totality, even of your own being which might seem impossible because you are an infinity to yourself, both body, mind, spirit and soul. To your moment-to-moment consciousness. But, having this orientation, having this humility of not feeling humiliated by your limitations. But by being aware of this humility is a spiritual blessing being aware of them, that way you can have some notion of where – we said one time, you can have some sense of the ideal thing to do. And, you have this inner desire, this inner honesty of acknowledging that ideal whether you are able to do it our not. That is just the direction. Just lean into that direction the best you can. That way, it came up recently; you are not totally humiliated by this potential. You feel this potential you have but you never have been able to fulfill it. But, instead of feeling that you are constantly so shy of realizing your potential you actually have no actual life. You do have an actual life. You are able to distinguish between the ideal and the real: between the potential and the actual. Some folks are so self-deprecating, so humiliated, that they never quite feel they are. They are so identified with this unrealized potential. It is like they are missing what is actually happening to them and it is a tragedy. So, your decisiveness, your desiring to be fully conscious and decisive and responsible as you can be, that is what adds more to the Supreme. At the same time, the Supreme is the actuality of your life and everyone else’s. I have to give another lesson sometime on the difference between and the complementarily of potential and actual. As you are able to be more and more actualized in your life you increase your potential. Does that help clarify your relationship with the Supreme?

Q #4: Yes, when I first read in the Urantia book and about the Thought Adjuster and how incredible distance in the time and space between myself living here on the planet and my actual sitting in paradise with our Heavenly Father that the Adjuster was /is a way of bridging that gap of loneliness and that gap between myself and that distance experience. This also, this living as fully as possible with an eye and an intention and an action dedicated to contributing to the Supreme here on Urantia is for me a work - is an all encompassing soul work, that keeps me out of other people’s space (laughter). I used to be quite a proselytizer of the Urantia Book and now I love to enjoy people as they are and even those people who are, - who indulge in evil because they don’t recognize their own ability to co-create. Still, I don’t know very many of them face to face but I hear of them or read of them or I am told of them through various medium. Those people too are talking a love of themselves from me because I minusculey participate in the evolution of our whole planet’s gradual extension or accumulation into the Supreme. That seems sort of broad chambered thinking, but that is how I feel, how I actually look at it. Yes, it is very humbling but not daunting to stand with your feet on physical ground and be your physical hand Michael in correcting myself through that time, the correcting of my self-time, and the loving attempt to make actual your love to the people I see around me.

Michael: My dear you have the essence of it. Keep in mind the Supreme is fully encompassing of everything you would think of as good and evil. In other words it is again the true story of all that has happened. In that sense it is all-inclusive, but it is also just as an individual’s soul it is your own soul. It is not only your memories of what happened to you. Your soul was co-created by God by a presence of God. And so, in this sense, the Supreme Being fully contains what you might think of all the good and all the evil that men and women have done. It is also seen from God’s point of view, as well as how they themselves experienced it. So, as you say, while your Thought Adjuster is a presence of God in which there is no separation within God. There can be and there is experience, the experiential reality of separation within individual human lives. I mean people can suffer enormously feeling separated from God. And that has a reality that is real for them. You can not gain say that and say that is some kind of mere illusion this suffering as some philosophies put it. That suffering of separation is some kind of unreal illusion. That is their experience. And so this is a way of honoring and respecting each person’s each individual’s experience of life. And that is what the Supreme is concerned with. Both the individual personality’s experience of life and how that life is seen from God’s all inclusive, all wise, all knowing perspective as well. So – continue. Continue my Daughter. You definitely have a great sense of the essence of what love is all about. And just the greatest thing you can do with other folks is just enjoy them!

Q #1: Michael if we are enjoying someone who says something you consider might be hurting them but would strip away the basis of their religion. How do we decide on which side? For instance, I am thinking of people I hear that say the following, “ Well I thought I could do everything on my own except I can’t get to heaven on my own. So that is why I need Jesus. That is why I need Christianity.” I know many worth folks who believe this. Great intent, wonderful faith loving people but, in that case do we just respectfully bow down to their credo and just say, “well I believe differently. For instance we make it to heaven if we try at all and the Lord is merciful. But it is so much easier with the living religion the living way, the truth and the life. Is there something I could say to them to ease or to bridge that gap to get closer to the truth? Would it help them?

Jerry: The life kind of feeling of the presence of Michael on that question was something just a little light hearted teasing. You know. You open up to people’s beliefs and you can present… I don’t want to speak for Michael, I just got that kind of a feeling as people ask questions I can of feel his attitude sometimes… I am kind of forming just a matter of a little light hearted teasing and then playfulness and be respectful of others but just offering. In a sense of real - Just understanding each other’s philosophy you can offer yours without any necessity to bow down or to accept anything and also to grant them the ability not to bow down and accept yours. Thank you all for being in the occasion.





Here it is Jerry - Oh my! It took forever... Cheers! Kath




-SUBJECT: LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE
SEPTEMBER 30, 2010

TEACHER: MICHAEL


T/R: JERRY LANE



Dear Michael and Mother Spirit, dear Devine Parents, dear old friends
welcome, welcome, always welcome. I am always inclined to say “Come
be with us and then I realize you are already here, you are always
here so let me make that - help us be aware of your presence. Help
us be aware that you are already, and always have been a part of our
lives, literally a part of us.
Michael you are the spirit of truth: that orientation to
this wonderful curiosity of wondering what is this? What is true here
in this moment? This orientation towards an unfolding adventure that
you reassure us, and help us accept this unfolding reality that has
no end. Mother Spirit your holy spirit is literally part of us.
Dimensions of our own intrinsic abilities of intuition, to just being
to know things immediately, without any intermediaries. Then to
accumulate this sole wealth of knowledge, and to correlate all that
knowledge, a thousand ways and understanding. The courage to do what
is difficult– if you fear, anxiety, uncertainty, pain. The courage to
attempt what is difficult in your holy spirit of counsel that helps
that innate ability we have to know others and to be known. That
ability of yours to help us be aware of, and appeal to spirit to
appreciate the creation and through that our love and appreciation of
the Creator in worship. And the final ability of ours, that you use
so greatly, the ability of all of this to really gather together our
soul-wealth and wisdom. For this dear parents we thank you for being
a part of us and a part of our lives. Amen


Michael: Dear children, dear friends, this is Michael. And yes we
thank you for your greeting for we are indeed a part of you. This is
our glory. This is our wonder at being a creator son and creator
daughter of God. That we have such companions such dear friends as
yourselves. It helps us honor and appreciate ourselves, our
father’s creativity. That he created such beings as you. That he
endows you with not only your own unique personalities. Every one of
you unique, unique in all the creation. But also he has endowed you
with his creative spirit. This absolute power that literally brings
something out of nothing. It gives you this potential to be free.
You are a personal being, not an impersonal energy or object. You are
not bound by antecedent causality simply that which came up to this
moment but in this moment, in this eternal now our Father shares with
you creativity. And it literally comes right out of you.
Just as God is like one of those surreal paintings of
yours. Like a fountain out in the middle of the air bursting
forth. So you are also a lot of little fountains like Mother
Spirit and myself. Like all personal beings of thousands of
different orders. This is what personality is. It is an intrinsic
part of nature of personality. For as we have taught there is no
impersonal spirit abroad in the universe. Spirit is a creative power
of a personal being. So this very creation itself, as the creation
itself points at a creator, a first cause, so it also points at this
nearly limitless creation of personal beings. It points at this
absolute reality of personality itself. What it is to be a personal
being. If it helps your philosophy, think of this as a primal
division of reality into impersonal reality. Energy and material that
are based strict cause and effect as you have chased it now right down
into the subatomic realm and the nono-second of continuity and still
haven’t reached any bottom, or top or sides. But it obeys the
absolute causality of God’s will. It is impersonal. It is! And from
one moment to the next it is utterly predictable, if as yet beyond
your science. For also your science, your understanding of this
continuity has no limits.
When you get to a personal being you are getting to a
creation of Gold’s. A being that he is endowed with an ability of
his own to create and therefore, as he ordained it, this being is now
free. This being, you, are capable of coming right up out of
yourselves with something that gives you a choice. You have
everything, all that has led up to this moment this eternal now.
But in this eternal now you have this potential, this possibility to
originate something out of yourself, out of your own uniqueness.
That exists, that has existed, nowhere else up to this moment. And,
to the very degree you can realize this creativity, you can have some
choice, some alternative, in addition to that is simply is already.
This is the power he has endowed you with. This is what it is to be
a spiritual being. This is your essence my children.
You are a spiritual being and whether you are consciously
aware of it or not you are co-creating your experiences of reality.
Moment by moment, in this eternal now, you have not only what has led
up to this moment, in a sense what you have created and what you have
been presented with all through your life. In this moment you have
the potential for something new. This is the essence of freedom.
This is the essence of your, we say ‘your relative autonomy” within
the cosmos. Because it is not yet for you - unlimited. You are
starting out on an eternal adventure. You are just beginning to grow
a soul. You are just beginning to accumulate experience. But, you
are not necessarily bound even by your own experience. By your own
understanding. You are co-creating your experience along with all
of that out there, all that is not you. You are very complex beings
my children (laughter). Unlike some other orders of personal beings
you have a physical body. A living physical body that is an infinity
to you. It is your experience of this body is also co-creation.
You are aware of how it changes. Sometimes moment to moment with
excitement, fear, anxiety, delight. All your sciences and all your
libraries have not yet plumbed the depths of this living tabernacle in
which you dwell, is composed of. And for each single one of you as
you live, as your body changes, so your experience of it changes. So
we often say you have a body/mind because they are so totally inter-
related. So co-dependent. How your mind reacts influences how you
perceive your body and vice versa. What you do with your body, what
you put into your body so profoundly affects your mental state and
abilities. And so as a spiritual being you are not only presented
moment to moment with this body/mind of yours it is how you are
interpreting this, what value you give it.
What value you perceive and recognize and really are
creating in your life. This is spirit. It is spirit, your spirit,
that evaluates your life moment to moment. If you think about it
this is incessant. Moment by moment you are evaluating what is
happening to you. What you are doing. So, strictly from the
standpoint of your personality, even your own body and mind, is
somewhat other. It is not entirely yet under your full realization
and control. This is another aspect of your growth. As it gets
some control, some realization, some unification, even of your own
body and mind and they are not unlimited either in extent or
duration. This very body and mind that connects you with its
perceptions to the rest of the world, will go. Your only lasting
possession is your soul. This is wealth of experience you are
accumulating.
You are growing. But it too is a gigantic reality my
children. That is co-authored by the presence of God within you.
So, even your own soul is an infinity to you. You really have to sit
down and suspend all the rest of the world just to enjoy a few moments
of pure soul of pure reliving, as if for the very first time some
other part of your life. And so your soul is a spiritual construct
so much greater than you might say, just your physical memories.
Your soul is the fullness within your memories. And you do not
fully realize your own soul until you become one with its co-author.
Until you become one with the presence of God within you.
Now if you think of how you grew into life starting as a
little baby. Then for how many years you weren’t even aware of this
body and mind of yours. You weren’t aware of having teeth and a tongue
and chewing. You were just absorbed in the food. You hardly were
aware of those little hands reaching out. You were more interested
in those toys and those things to get hold of. You weren’t aware of
your feet, you were just aware of being able to move around, to run
over here and there. It might have taken some of you years and
years to be aware of mirrors and that person over there. That
person who made you aware you had a body. And the mind was just a tool
you used. And how limited it was at first because is all collapsed
from time to time. Try as your best the whole world just collapsed,
fell all apart, some terrible terrible aching thing and then you sat
there bawling until you could slowly, ever so slowly catch your breath
and start again. Little by little you became aware of yourself.
You got this “self-conscious self”. Your ego began to grow. All
of a sudden there was a “Me” in your reality. And there was all of
a sudden a “mine” in your reality. This is “mine”. For even little
fishes can be possessive of their accumulations. Even birds can be
territorial.
So, indeed you are a very complex being (laughter). Some
say this is a curse but what a gift it is. Mind, Body, Spirit, Soul,
Ego. And how your personality can identify with each in turn or all
together. And so you see my children how it is not only the
evolution of culture all over the world, all those hundreds, even
thousands of little mini-cultures all over the world not only that but
the evolution of your own life. How difficult it is, at times, to
convince people - persons, you – that human beings are spiritual
beings. They are co-creating their own experience of life and to
that degree responsible for what is happening to them. When so many
live in an agony, so much suffering based on not realizing this is a
very fundamental fact of human reality. To not only they, but also
every one of those that they come in contact with, is another
spiritual being, another unique personality created by God.
To be able to respond to all that you are and all that is happening to
you is indeed humbling, is it not? All that encompasses you. All
that has its affect upon you. All that you yourself are constantly
creating. Your attitude towards all of that and your interpretation
of all of that. All that you are and have been. What a miracle!
What an amazing thing this life of yours is. But this then
is a spiritual blessing of humility, of being able to be aware of all
of this. Even Mother Spirit and I are somewhat in the same
situation. We too must humbly acknowledge and thank our Father for
even being able to perceive, to be aware of this encompassing of his
that is an infinity in every direction and every dimension. And the
very fact that here we are. Moment by moment. Every moment we are
complete, as all the rest of his creation, and yet by his will what
you call ‘time’. This eternal now is in motion and here comes
another moment and another, like it or not. This is his will and
here it comes. To welcome this will of his. To welcome, even to
enjoy and appreciate and worship this creation of his. Me and you –
and each other.
This is our responsibility. This is our blessing to be
able to grow this innate desire, this innate ability to respond.
Especially to each other. We acknowledge that only God is
responsible for the creation for only he has that ultimate, even the
absolute and infinite ability to respond to all that is.
Still we can reach out to him. We can orient ourselves
towards this truth, this adventure this unfolding and say, “Thank you
dear father – thank you for me - that I am. Thank you for this
adventure that you lay out for me”. On into an unending infinity of
you to discover, to grow. And so thank you my dear children, my
dear friends for coming along with me on this ride. This
appreciation of all that we are, even beyond our ability moment to
moment to understand. The strange, magnificent reality in which we
are a part of our own encompassing. Now if you have any questions or
comments this evening I am always glad to have some conversations with
my friends.


Q#1: Does that include all of us Lord? Can we ask a question too?

Michael: Oh absolutely

Q#1. Thank you. I would like to know, if I may, how does Spirit see
and hear and smell? Do we have the ability to have our spirit see,
hear and smell just as we can sometimes read each other’s minds if we
are sort-of advanced, or are we truly engaged with another person we
can perhaps do what spirit can do? Perhaps even more deeply now?
Can we develop that ability?

Michael: My daughter there is no limit that can be put upon
personality. This essential reality that you are, this unique being
that you are, neither in extent nor duration. As long as you are
associated with this body/mind in this first life of yours, there are
limitations. There are – these limitations are with respect to what
you can grow into. At each moment, as I tried to express this
evening, there is - you are facing a kind of infinity of what you can
do. So, all this is an unfolding, even of your own potential. The
way you put it ‘ you don’t know what you can do until you try’.
That is a rather broad answer, but there is no way to pin down, and
that is a blessing, what all of your capabilities are. You just
have to try and then be really honest with yourself as to what the
results of this experiment were.

Q. Yes, I see. Thank you – thank you so much.


Michael: Let me throw you a challenge.

Q. OK


Michael: This will be with you forever so you might as well get used
to it. The greatest challenge of any personal being, in your
relating with our father, is to open yourself in prayer and
meditation, and ask of yourself and of the whole spiritual community,
‘what is the best thing to do next?’ That is kind of scary is it
not? It is also opens a door to potential. It is truly humbling.

Q. I will do it. What is the best thing to do next after prayer
and meditation? OK – Thank You.


Michael: In prayer and meditation – yes.

Q#1: In prayer and meditation

Michael: One of the most sincere prayers you can ask of yourself and
of the presence of God within you and you can do it anytime. Be
conscious of it.

Q. Uh huh Wonderful, Thank you


Michael: You are welcome my daughter. Be in my Peace.

Q#1: If no one else has another question I have one more.


Michael: Sure

Q#1: OK – The woman who touched your hand received energy. The same
we are to give out to uplift people. But, she was a believer. Is
that paradigm necessary? Must the person be a believer before they
get the greatest transmission of our own energy? Is – or is that not
necessarily the formula to best help and save souls? Can we have
one formula for that? I guess what I am asking is can I still plant
the seed in a non-believer that did the same thing as when that women
touched your hem. Can we still give that energy or does she or he
have to there to receive it with a certain willingness to believe, a
certain faith? Or do we have so much to give to them and overcome
what they don’t have?

Michael: Well now my dear you are asking the very nature of love
itself.

Q#1: Yes

Michael: Love can just be a total ‘beam me out’ of well wishing
towards another. That will affect them, but not always
consciously. Think of the difference between belief and faith.
Belief is a kind of a construct within you. It is like you have your
own personal philosophy of life. It is what you are doing your best,
moment to moment to understand all of reality. What you believe is
true. But, by that very nature it is a time/space construct that
hopefully, is capable of growth, evolution. Faith is the ability to
extend yourself beyond belief. That is why it is so closely allied
to courage. It is so closely allied to power. It gives you an
ability. And, so it is more or less your faith in the very power of
love that enables you to beam this power out. This good wishing
toward someone else and then faith is rewarded in fact. Something
happens. Faith is a unique power that lets you do things beyond your
belief. It is not a suspension of belief; it is a going beyond
belief. Then it is rewarded in actuality. Something actually
happens because of this faith that nothing else can do. And it is a
very special reward. So, yes, by all means, your faith in the power
of love. In your own sincere, good intentions – again there is limit
again how that can affect someone else. Because they have, in
addition to what ever they believe, they have the presence of God
within them. They have a personality – and they can recognize a
kindred soul – irrespective of their belief. It simply helps when
then their belief system, if you will, has this possibility within
it. It makes it easier for them to recognize the love you are
sending them. But, the love you are sending them and its affect is
not dependent upon their belief. If their belief is such that you
can help them recognize what you are doing that reward is that much
greater for both of you. But, as you love, and as that love has an
effect, so it can help them – so shall we say, evolve their own beliefs.

Q#1: Excellent. Thank you so much. I love you Michael.

Michael: Thank you my daughter. Mother Spirit and I can feel
that. That is part of our glory is to feel that love.

Q#1: I am glad.

Q#2: How are you doing today?

Michael: Hello – Go ahead.

Q#2: I bring you greetings. Thank you for the work you do. I am
so grateful and appreciate your blessings to our lives and I am really
desirous to see that many more people get to tap into the ministry of
the Teaching Mission and I know that it is becoming a reality. More
and more people are becoming aware of monjoronson.com and TM
Archives. It is a beautiful thing you know. I just wanted to say
thank you for the great work you and your team – you know –
Machiventa, Monjoronson and the others, Mother Spirit and so many
others involved in this massive work. Sometimes it seems to some of
us the progress is so slow that change on the planet is so slow. I
would like to say one or two things to encourage such individuals and
sometimes, some Light workers tend to get saddened by the forces of
evil. They feel the forces of evil are so strong and it is so
difficult to push for change, for positive, progressive changes in
government, in politics, in religion and in every area of life. Even
in material prosperity, because … in poverty in different parts of the
world. And few people have so much money. The Light workers get
tempted to feel, ‘this is so difficult, I’m not going to see this
wonderful, positive changes of prosperity, material prosperity,
righteousness, justice, peace in my lifetime.” And sometimes it
weighs on them. I would appreciate it if you would give a word or two
to encourage such people. Then, on a different note, if you may
choose to talk about it, this idea – this concept of inner earth.
You know life in inner earth. We have seen planet earth but, in the
inside of this orb called Urantia there is this life in existence,
many many miles down the surface of planet earth. Maybe up to 800
miles down. There is this world (unknown)…that is used to peak
that denotes this other life when brothers and sisters existing within
inner earth. If you want to talk about it I’d appreciate it. I know
for some reason sometimes some teachers don’t want to talk about
it. I don’t know how you feel about that. If you want to talk
about that. I am interested in the brotherhood of man on the
surface of planet earth and also connecting (unknown)… other planets
and also what exists within planet earth. If you want to talk about
that I’d appreciate that as well. I will go mute and listen to your
comments. Thank you.

Michael: Yes my son. It is always helpful to keep in mind that what
you perceive as evil is largely reactive. It is almost defined by
the absence of true creativity. Of never – of poor human beings
never quite coming into this eternal now and experiencing the full
power of their own creativity. Of never touching – never growing
and touching an inner spiritual home base. Of never having this.
So much of what they are doing is coming from a position of fear and
of reactivity. Of feeling somewhat helpless in the stream of
events. So, in a way, lacking that appreciation, that worship, that
thankfulness for their life, for all those around them, they are
always, as you say, behind the curve, always just a moment too late.
Never being able to feel and accept the responsibility of this co-
creation that they are involved in and what is happening to them.
What has happened to them is as much their own doing as what
appears to them appears simply as ‘what was done to them’. With this
orientation, with this basic philosophy of life and understanding that
they are not responsible, they are cutting themselves off from their
very own power of genuine creativity. They, in a sense, make all
that fear and apprehension disappear. It is those who view
themselves to be powerless. They are extremely dangerous because
there is no limit what they can do in this feudal (?) – seeking more
power ever more power. If they can’t realize the power they have,
that they are responsible for what is happening to them then they have
no ability to respond to it.
So, keep this in mind. That is where love is the only
thing that can conquer this. It is your own creativity. You own
being ‘in the moment’ and accepting, welcoming, your own ability to
respond. In a sense it keeps you out of that subtle trap. This is
where you cannot simply respond in kind. Because again, you are merely
reacting to their reactionary behavior. It is your own creativity,
your own freedom, from however they are presenting themselves. It
gives you that liberty.
Also my son, keep in mind, as you live your day-to-day life,
as you come in contact with others, through your power of creativity,
love and appreciation and worship, you are literally demonstrating
what is possible. And, so you might perhaps kind of capture their
attention, peak their curiosity; get them to wondering about your
freedom, and about the fact that you are not merely reacting to them.
The Urantia book calls it a spiritual fragrance that you have. About
your whole being and the way you are handling life. This is what you
are offering to them. You are, if you will, teasing them out of
themselves. To be spontaneous, to be free, to realize their real
power. You have that rather cynical political maxim that ‘power
corrupts – and absolute power corrupts absolutely’. Which may have a
certain validity in political and social, economic realms, but in the
spiritual realm my son, absolute power corrupts absolutely no one.
For it is your Saints, your folks who have lived their lives for
others that really had the real power. And so, as they say the
challenge is for each one of you as it is for me. It is not what is
the easiest or the hardest but what is the best thing to do next.
You can start every day with meditation or a dozen times a
day to stop and wonder. Open yourself – open yourself to your own
wisdom and your own love, your own spiritual nature and the presence
of God within you. Dear Father – help me know what is the best thing
to do next. Totally irrespective of whether you can do it or not.
That is the courage of self-honesty is to know the best thing.
Whether you can do it or not! Then, all the rest of it falls into
place. Then the world is transformed and you see there is no need
for patience. The spiritual evolution of the world is not some slow
dragging process. But the human race is on a roller coaster and
always has been. Things are moving so fast especially now. You
have some poor folks saying “slow down. Too much, too soon”. The
reactionary. So open your heart to them my son. Send them your
love. Realize the pain they are in. Let your love and this
consideration help transform you as well as you hope it will transform
them. And be in my Peace.

Q#1: That was beautiful

Q#2: Well thank you Michael. Do you want to talk about inner earth?

Michael: What is that again?

Q #2: Would you want to talk about inner earth? Life in inner earth?

Michael: Enoch?

Q#2: I-N-N-E-R E-A-R-T-H Inner Earth. Life within the planet.
Human life, intelligent life taking place inside planet earth. …Am I
coming clearly to the TR?

Michael: Excuse me son, I can’t quite understand that.
Q#2: I think it is my unusual accent. Maybe the TR is not picking it
up. The second part of my comment was about inner earth. Life
within planet earth. Inside planet earth. OK…

Michael: Yes I understand you my son. To me this is a concept that
has a certain validity in a kind of a spiritual way in understanding
forces and that. But there is literally no personal life within the
earth. It is, as your science offers you, the vision of a – the
world is actually a purely impersonal reality. There is no inner
life in that sense beyond that which exists on the surface of the world.

Q#2: OK – One of the reasons I brought it up is because in some
circles we hear about the Galactic Federation and this idea – or this
reported facts that the Galactic Federation … within inner earth.
So, if you go down through the oceans for example, there are different
entry ports. So, some of the entry ports are through the oceans.
So you go down down further down, away from the surface you can get
through an entry port into inner earth as it were. I have an idea or
an illusion of the Galactic Federation … within the planet earth as
it were.

Michael: Yes my son, I understand the concept now. But, that is only
a symbolic meaning. It has no actuality in the physical world. It
is literally, as your science is projecting, you go down through a
very kind of a surface that is sitting on a molten layer of magma and
as you go into the center of the earth it is as your science projects
it –you get to a solid core. Of the heavier materials and such with
temperatures greater than the surface of the sun. Much as your
Urantia Book describes it. But, these are – this is only a
combination of what you would call geologic forces. There is no
personal beings other than those on the surface.

Q#2: I got you.

Q: #1 Michael is it possible that sometimes people can create
scenarios through great desire. You say anything is possible. But,
this might even be counter productive. Sometimes family members who
are grieving firmly believe they see members that have passed on or
graduated. I used to contradict them saying there was no way spirit
is going to come back to do something trivial, although I know
exceptions can be made if there is an important reason for them to
come back shortly after death. But, I thought they were doing it to
themselves to make themselves feel better. Creating a scenario in
their minds, but they insist they really do see people who have
recently passed. I am thinking for instance of my father who
recently passed and my sister saying she saw him. Shall I just let
them believe what they need to believe unless I’m asked for my
opinion? Anything is possible but it just makes me feel like I am so
wanting to enlighten someone who knows nothing about the Urantia book
so – the foundation would be difficult for me to begin to talk to her
about why I know they cannot possibly cross over once again after they
have graduated.

Michael: Yes my daughter. I think you have a good grasp of the
situation. Without that frame work of understanding about – first
of all what the personality is and then with the very psychic circles,
what happens to people - different individuals as they die. Those,
which join the ranks of the sleeping survivors, those which you know,
are -relatively more quickly find themselves on a Mansion World as
they cross over very quickly. You have to consider them the
efficacy, the very purpose then of what you are attempting to do. If
it is not within their belief system, here again, if it is not within
their belief system, you can only make, shall we say, certain
suggestions. But, what is the point? If your sister has these
experiences they have this, what you might call a relative validity
for her. What is the point of trying to prove something one way or
another if the ability to recognize that that proof is not there?
It would be merely destructive unless it is somehow or another. This
whole sense of dealing with ghosts, which do not exist. The Urantia
book is quite succinct between the unconsciousness of the last moment
– right before death and reawakening on the Mansion World. The
personality simply resides with God. It has no way of manifesting
itself. Without that understanding it is almost pointless to destroy
what is a very valid psychological experience.

Q#1: I can see that now. Absolutely

Michael: Here you can simply, if they are open to it, kind of tease,
lovingly tease with notions if she is open to exploring this whole
realm. In this case you are merely offering to add to it rather than
destroy what is if it is not being destructive to her. If her belief
system is not hurting her in any way – that is just her belief
system. It is a matter of love to acknowledge that. It is enormous
love just letting people be. Just enjoy them as they are.

Q#1: Yes – enjoying them as they are. Got it! Thank you.

Q #3: Michael?

Michael: Yes

Q#3: Would you allow me to … further on the previous question. I
think there is a little bit of confusion of what we have been learning
from other sources. I’ll rephrase the question a little bit.
Would there be physical beings of extra-terrestrial origin meaning
those not of earth civilization. Are they somehow influencing our
earth in anyway whether they exist in other star systems or they exist
in maybe caves or some civilization on earth that we don’t know
about? Would these beings possibly be influencing our civilization
in a way that would affect … time or Monjoronson’s Magisterial Mission
or the Teaching Mission and things like that. Do you understand my
question?

Michael: Yes my son. I take it you are referring not to the
spiritual community literally, but to physical beings. Beings that
have some physical ness. In a sense requires some form of starship or
whatever have you to be here. And no, they are not influencing the
course of human events.

Q#3: That would be the question – the broad question.

Michael: (Laughter) That is it in one sentence.


*The Telephone Connection with Caller #4 was not as clear as other
connections. Periodically there was a static that made accurate
transcription difficult.



Q#4: Michael may I ask something then, maybe on the component that
you referred to of the spiritual economy or the spiritual levels of
personality who are - The Urantia herself. The Planetary Supreme
Urantia. The evolutionary – the representative, or the Planetary
Supreme who is the evolving actualization of all of our choices who we
contribute to bring into our personality level at some future point
beyond light and life. Could we – Is this our true concept?

Michael: Yes my daughter, there is a manifestation of – The Supreme is
that dimension of reality that is a consummation, accumulation of all
the personal experiences. In that sense the Planetary Supreme is an
evolving entity that like the Supreme Being is an evolving
manifestation of evolving time and space events. It is contactable,
but as it is hard to say how this registers in the human consciousness
as something again is an enormous encompassing that is more felt as a
presence because if you stop to consider the supreme being of the
whole evolution of all of humanity on this planet. Ever since Andon
and Fonta that is something that would have for you, shall we say, a
kind of a presence or any kind particularity or specificity within
this would be less than what it is. What I am saying is the Planetary
Supreme can only register as a kind of presence beyond that you are
getting into some very particular notion of it. You would be
breaking it down into less than what it fully is. Do you see what I
mean?

Q#4: Yes, certainly. And the glory of being human is in the cosmic
circles is to become aware of responsibility, Cosmic responsibility in
our own actions and daily actions. Loving people as they are,
loving the work that we do. Conquering our inclination to wallow in
self-pity, observing evil. All of those things. We contribute, if
we are wanting to contribute to the supreme as a presence or as
anything we can really understand. We can only really see the
Supreme as our little own miniscule contribution. But we are aware of
our contribution. We are aware of looking around us and seeing the
world but, very specifically in one particular spot in time and space
and loving that moment – that eternal moment of being able to choose
for you in your will and your Father’s will to move that momentary
inch toward the realization, the actualization towards the Supreme.

Michael: The planetary Supreme is part of the encompassing in which
you live. But it is so far beyond, just like the Supreme Being is
so far beyond human comprehension. As the totality of all human life
of all human experience. All your soul in a sense. Think of the
World Supreme as the World Soul. As the soul wealth of the planet
and all the millions and billions and trillions of human beings have
lived this is so far beyond human comprehension, yet it is part of the
encompassing in which you do live. It is part of the spiritual
community if you want to look at it that way. Of all the other
spiritual beings that are on the earth. The Planetary Supreme is
some really awesome reality that you can only be aware of in this
sense as part of this incomprehensible encompassing in which you
live. And, this way the appreciation of that is kind of like your
own soul acknowledging what it must be like even as your imagination
can best supply you with some form. But it is quite formless in that
sense. Any kind of form you give it is so much less than what it is.

Q#4: And then how do you as Michael, as Michael a Master Son..Me
asking you? Well Well …. You as a Creator Son and Master Son and as
Urantian, have a perspective of course that we can never have but we
can share .. .. and encourage ought daily moment-to-moment to do
what is the best thing to do now – not just for the moment, but also
because we are contributing to the Planetary Supremes over souls.

Michael: That is wrapped up, in what I talked about tonight. Being
aware of the fact that you are co creating. You are involved in what
you are experiencing. This wondering what is best to do with your
life, even moment by moment. It would definitely are reaching – it
is like opening yourself to this totality, even of your own being
which might seem impossible because you are an infinity to yourself,
both body, mind, spirit and soul. To your moment-to-moment
consciousness. But, having this orientation, having this humility of
not feeling humiliated by your limitations. But by being aware of
this humility is a spiritual blessing being aware of them, that way
you can have some notion of where – we said one time, you can have
some sense of the ideal thing to do. And, you have this inner
desire, this inner honesty of acknowledging that ideal whether you are
able to do it our not. That is just the direction. Just lean into
that direction the best you can. That way, it came up recently; you
are not totally humiliated by this potential. You feel this
potential you have but you never have been able to fulfill it. But,
instead of feeling that you are constantly so shy of realizing your
potential you actually have no actual life. You do have an actual
life. You are able to distinguish between the ideal and the real:
between the potential and the actual. Some folks are so self-
deprecating, so humiliated, that they never quite feel they are.
They are so identified with this unrealized potential. It is like
they are missing what is actually happening to them and it is a
tragedy. So, your decisiveness, your desiring to be fully conscious
and decisive and responsible as you can be, that is what adds more to
the Supreme. At the same time, the Supreme is the actuality of your
life and everyone else’s. I have to give another lesson sometime on
the difference between and the complementarily of potential and
actual. As you are able to be more and more actualized in your life
you increase your potential. Does that help clarify your relationship
with the Supreme?

Q #4: Yes, when I first read in the Urantia book and about the Thought
Adjuster and how incredible distance in the time and space between
myself living here on the planet and my actual sitting in paradise
with our Heavenly Father that the Adjuster was /is a way of bridging
that gap of loneliness and that gap between myself and that distance
experience. This also, this living as fully as possible with an eye
and an intention and an action dedicated to contributing to the
Supreme here on Urantia is for me a work - is an all encompassing soul
work, that keeps me out of other people’s space (laughter). I used
to be quite a proselytizer of the Urantia Book and now I love to enjoy
people as they are and even those people who are, - who indulge in
evil because they don’t recognize their own ability to co-create.
Still, I don’t know very many of them face to face but I hear of them
or read of them or I am told of them through various medium. Those
people too are talking a love of themselves from me because I
minusculey participate in the evolution of our whole planet’s gradual
extension or accumulation into the Supreme. That seems sort of
broad chambered thinking, but that is how I feel, how I actually look
at it. Yes, it is very humbling but not daunting to stand with your
feet on physical ground and be your physical hand Michael in
correcting myself through that time, the correcting of my self-time,
and the loving attempt to make actual your love to the people I see
around me.

Michael: My dear you have the essence of it. Keep in mind the
Supreme is fully encompassing of everything you would think of as good
and evil. In other words it is again the true story of all that has
happened. In that sense it is all-inclusive, but it is also just as
an individual’s soul it is your own soul. It is not only your
memories of what happened to you. Your soul was co-created by God by
a presence of God. And so, in this sense, the Supreme Being fully
contains what you might think of all the good and all the evil that
men and women have done. It is also seen from God’s point of view,
as well as how they themselves experienced it. So, as you say, while
your Thought Adjuster is a presence of God in which there is no
separation within God. There can be and there is experience, the
experiential reality of separation within individual human lives. I
mean people can suffer enormously feeling separated from God. And
that has a reality that is real for them. You can not gain say that
and say that is some kind of mere illusion this suffering as some
philosophies put it. That suffering of separation is some kind of
unreal illusion. That is their experience. And so this is a way of
honoring and respecting each person’s each individual’s experience of
life. And that is what the Supreme is concerned with. Both the
individual personality’s experience of life and how that life is seen
from God’s all inclusive, all wise, all knowing perspective as well.
So – continue. Continue my Daughter. You definitely have a great
sense of the essence of what love is all about. And just the
greatest thing you can do with other folks is just enjoy them!

Q #1: Michael if we are enjoying someone who says something you
consider might be hurting them but would strip away the basis of their
religion. How do we decide on which side? For instance, I am
thinking of people I hear that say the following, “ Well I thought I
could do everything on my own except I can’t get to heaven on my own.
So that is why I need Jesus. That is why I need Christianity.” I
know many worth folks who believe this. Great intent, wonderful faith
loving people but, in that case do we just respectfully bow down to
their credo and just say, “well I believe differently. For instance
we make it to heaven if we try at all and the Lord is merciful. But
it is so much easier with the living religion the living way, the
truth and the life. Is there something I could say to them to ease
or to bridge that gap to get closer to the truth? Would it help them?

Jerry: The life kind of feeling of the presence of Michael on that
question was something just a little light hearted teasing. You
know. You open up to people’s beliefs and you can present… I don’t
want to speak for Michael, I just got that kind of a feeling as people
ask questions I can of feel his attitude sometimes… I am kind of
forming just a matter of a little light hearted teasing and then
playfulness and be respectful of others but just offering. In a
sense of real - Just understanding each other’s philosophy you can
offer yours without any necessity to bow down or to accept anything
and also to grant them the ability not to bow down and accept yours.
Thank you all for being in the occasion.






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