[tmtranscripts] FW: MONJORONSON.COM Q/A SESSION #5 6-03-08

Tom Newbill t.oldbill at verizon.net
Tue Jun 10 11:51:32 PDT 2008




SUBJECT: MONJORONSON.COM Q/A SESSION #5 6-03-08

TEACHER: MONJORONSON

T/R: MARK ROGERS

MODERATOR: MARY ROGERS

Monjoronson: Greetings, I am Monjoronson once again arriving at this place
with you, this place of service. I am pleased to join you in such a service
project together and look forward to these scheduled encounters that we
have. It is my privilege and pleasure as well as yours to work together for
the common goal of bringing this wonderful creation of Michael's into
alignment and into light and life. Truly we appreciate together this
opportunity to be of service and to work together in this capacity. I
willingly will join you in this opportunity to field some of the questions
that we find posted on this forum.

Question #1[Mary]: Monjoronson, I'm going to read this question straight
from the website, it's rather lengthy so I will go ahead and get on with it.
Hello Monjoronson, I hope you are well. I have a question that falls into
the prior subject of discernment in regard to the resonance of truth. I find
it more than interesting that different personalities find truth in various
places. Specifically I would love for you to address the conflict and
resonance regarding three amazing resources of truth, the Urantia book, the
Teaching Mission and the Magisterial Mission. Many people who study and
love the Urantia book have a difficult time understanding and accepting the
truths inherent in the Teaching Mission. At the same time there are many
people that fully resonate with the Teaching Mission that have a difficult
time resonating with and accepting the ideas of the Magisterial Mission. I
have three questions.

1. Could you speak a bit regarding this diversity of resonance in respect
to these three specific and unique channels of truth?

2. Is this divide a result of the diversity of personality pattern or
otherwise could this be a matter of personal discernment?

3. In the final analysis it seems to me that all those in conflict of
approach of a common and mutual understanding of the brotherhood/sisterhood
of man, which begs the question: does it even matter that there is diversity
of approach, belief or acceptance?

Thanks in advance for your response. Peace and love to you Monjoronson and
thank you for your help and efforts during this correcting time.

Monjoronson: This is Monjoronson returning to answer your inquiry. Thank you
for your thoughtful question which does indeed speak to the issue of
discernment. Your question itself indicates that you have a grasp on some of
the dynamics involved in this issue of discernment and appropriateness of
the individual. You in your observation state that there seems to be some
things which are underlying and simultaneously there are diverse avenues of
approach and this is well stated in your question when you ask if this is
important as an aspect.

Certainly you have observed in your experience that every individual has a
unique perspective on their world and thus on the truth that they apply to
this perspective. In fact there are no two perspectives that are identical,
each one being unique to its owner and therefore it is required that there
be a multitude of approaches to the discernment of truth. As you well know,
truth is living and dynamic and is appropriate for each individual at
different levels and at different times depending upon their individual
growth and progress in maturing and understanding.

This necessitates that all allowances be made for each individual to receive
truth on their own terms and in their own time. As mortals of the realm you
would like to believe that there is but one common truth, one underlying
principle and that all other aspects would simply be false or untruth but in
fact all these different perspectives are relative truths, that is it is not
simply a matter of this or that being the truth but rather many times it is
this and that, that constitutes the truth for everyones perspective is
narrow and incomplete and truth is so all encompassing that it cannot be
defined by anyones narrow perspective of it.

Rather it embraces and includes all different perspectives. To constitute
the greater understanding requires the combination of many perspectives and
many differing truths as you would call them. Certainly even in your own
experience you can notice that in the many different religions for example,
there are kernels of truth within each and yet at the same time there are
distinctions in each and while it is human nature to try to narrow the
perspective to claim you have found the truth, have the truth, possess the
truth and then own the truth is an immature perspective because you fail to
see that there is truth in all avenues and in all perspectives.

It is not necessary to attempt to exclude things which are outside of your
perspective, rather real truth will seek to include all avenues of approach.
And so you will find your brothers and sisters gathering around different
points of view and different perspectives as the ones they most readily
resonate with. This is a natural tendency of humans to rally around a common
cause and this is well and good as it is a supportive environment for those
who participate in such action. Where this turns [non] beneficial is when
any club or group or organization declares that their path surely is the
only path or the right path to the exclusion of all others.

We must remember that all these paths are there because they are chosen by
ones who resonate [with them] and while it is easy for you to choose sides
and declare your side the more correct it is not necessarily beneficial that
you follow this pattern of winners and losers because in this game, in The
Father's grand plan, there are no losers. There are many different ways,
many different paths, many different perspectives and in order that this
game be won, all must be accepted as valid approaches for they are there as
a result of the needs and the choices of these individuals and they serve a
valid purpose for these individuals at their station in evolution.

Do not let these divisions overly concern you. What you are predominantly
likely to feel is that you would like to belong to a club which is popular
and which is widely accepted by all and when you find yourself belonging to
a club which stands in contrast to other organizations or clubs then it is
easy to feel a disharmony because the normal pattern of human nature is to
define things as us and them, a right and wrong, good or bad. We must tackle
this issue of judgment and the effect it has on dividing the children who
are all seeking the same thing.

So I would support the last part of your question that it shouldn't matter
to you or to any of the others where you find yourself or where they find
themselves. It is the more mature perspective to live and let live, to
simply resist the familiar patterning that arrives with the observation that
there are distinctions and differences. To some, they will find all they
need with the group that identifies with the Urantia book. Others will be
motivated to expand beyond the Urantia book and identify with what you as a
group have defined and delineated as now two distinct groups, the Teaching
Mission and the Magisterial Mission.

Of course in the universal perspective there is no such distinction, it is
all one grand mission, the mission of Michael and the upliftment of His
world. This mission may fragment into various segments but all these
segments surely are under one gigantic umbrella. I hope this addresses your
inquiry, thank you for your question.

Question #2: [Mary] Thank you Monjoronson. Here's another question involving
planetary DNA. My question relates to human DNA. How does the current DNA of
humans compare to the DNA of mortals on planets that were never subjected to
rebellion? Our text the Urantia book tells us that the default of Adam and
Eve caused our DNA to be deficient as compared to the DNA of other mortals
where their material sons and daughters accomplished their mission. However
my question relates to the effects the rebellion itself had on the
development of our DNA.

My second question has to do with Adam and Eve. What is expected to be their
involvement with your mission? Also if there are current efforts in place to
alter the DNA of those who desire to be up-stepped to better assist you in
the coming time?

Monjoronson: Thank you for your question. As you may well know, your
scientists have uncovered a great deal about the importance of your DNA and
as you may well have concluded there is still a great deal they have yet to
discover. This part of your being you have rightly discovered is responsible
for imparting to the next generation critical information and therefore when
any two individuals mate they are able to each one impart critical
information that is necessary to the combination of the new life they
create.

As you may well imagine, if this tiniest aspect of your being is capable of
bringing forward genetic traits it is also capable of bringing forward
traits of your lineage and it is this record of your history that is passed
down generation to generation. Your scientists have yet to discover the
depths of significance in this genetic code that you each have which can be
passed forward from you but also has been passed forward to you through many
many generations. And as you well know, genetically this code is altered
with each generation.

This alteration adds to this genetic code each time and becomes uniquely
altered throughout the entire process. Therefore the DNA that you have in
you right now is the culmination of a million years of evolution, It
contains the genetic memory, if you will, of your lineage and as well
carries with it the lineage of divinity. These unused or un-accessed
portions of your DNA are nevertheless part of your makeup as they were part
of the makeup of all those who came before you who made it possible for you
to be here today.

Therefore your DNA is unique not only to you but to your planet, to your
growth as a species and in this way is your pool of DNA on this planet
entirely unique to the unfolding of this world. Just as I spoke of different
perspectives there are different perspectives and different realities on
different worlds. No two have the same history or the same lineage and
therefore this pool of the brotherhood of man is unique in this petri dish
experiment in time and space.

You ask what role Adam and Eve might have to play and I can only tell you
that they are eager to play a role. Certainly it is of keen interest to them
what happens to this pool of genetic makeup that they too have contributed
to. As your text has said, they had grand plans for larger contributions to
this genetic pool and their efforts were thwarted but they are still keenly
interested in helping with this process of uplifting the gene pool and this
speaks to the question of DNA as well.

Your question also asks whether the DNA you possess or that is currently
part of the composition of the brotherhood of man can be changed or altered
but I tell you that it is changed and altered routinely and regularly. It
may be contributed to throughout this entire process and parts of your DNA
that have been dormant may now become activated by frequencies of energy
that are being sent out from on high and as you become more enlightened and
more aware, this in turn has an impact not only on your DNA in this life but
all subsequent DNA will then become the carriers of this new enhanced
dimension.

And so it is that this DNA, this scroll of your past becomes changed and
altered with each generation and now as we approach the spiritual age, it
may in fact be changed within each lifetime. It may be enhanced by the same
creative force that you are becoming familiar with as co-creative beings.
This is entirely within the realm of possibility, it is even probable as
this is consistent with the divine plan of evolution and development and it
is this most basic element of yourselves that will contain these new codes
and these new awakenings for generations to come. Thank you for your
question.

Question #3: [Mary] Thank you for your answer Monjoronson. We have one last
question tonight and it reads; how long in earth days will it take to get
from here to Mansonia #1 when we cross over? Thank you.

Monjoronson: Thank you for your question. A question such as this must at
one point be on the mind of everyone who is aware enough to know that they
are bound for Mansonia #1. It indicates a certain level of awareness and its
associated curiosity, however there are many factors involved in such a
journey and it is in no way pre-determined what the course that will be
taken may be. For instance the questioner assumes that you will be going
rather directly to the first Mansion world and I declare to you plainly that
this is a matter which is largely under your control.

If you for instance apply yourself and are able to make sufficient spiritual
progress while here in this life, there may in fact be no need for you to
travel to this particular sphere and so I would ask you to consider lifting
the limitations on your perceptions of an absolute path that must be
traveled from here to there. Surely your text has defined for you normal
routine progressions that are part of a normal developing world's
inhabitants journeys but this world, as you are coming to understand is
anything but normal and you may if you choose, decide to avail yourselves of
all the opportunities to grow in spirit here on this sphere and find it
unnecessary to go to Mansion world #1.

As you well know there is a great gulf in trying to reference the realm of
time and space that you find yourself in with the spiritual realm in terms
of how long things take for your idea of days, hours, weeks for time itself
is a construct you have in your mind and it does not apply once you leave
this sphere. And so it is difficult to determine how many apples equal one
orange. Suffice it to say that the whole concept will be instantaneously
irrelevant to you the moment, that is a moment your time, that you depart
from this paradigm of time; you will enter a new paradigm of time and find
it hard to relate to your old construct of understanding of days, weeks,
rotation of the earth, cycles around the sun.

All of those things are simply your attempt to bring pattern and meaning
into this cyclical world that you observe, in fact the part of you that
endures is timeless and is only enjoying this experience of being
temporarily time bound and one day, week, year, whatever you will look back
so to speak and recall how patterned your life was so arbitrarily by a thing
that you used to call time. When looking from the perspective of eternity
time is hardly relative. So I encourage you to think in broad terms, in
expansive terms and release yourself from the restrictions of how long, are
we there yet, how much longer?

Rather enjoy this experience of spinning around the sun every so often and
watching yourselves grow old because this is the only place that such events
will happen to you in your existence. Cherish these moments in time and do
not concern yourself how long will this take or are we there yet. We have a
long way to go, thank you for your question.

[Mary]: Thank you for being with us tonight Monjoronson.

Monjoronson: It is indeed my privilege and pleasure to join you for this
exercise in bridging these dimensions. I understand that you are bound by
time and have these restrictions before you and I honor them for they are
your reality. And so I see that the hour grows long and the time grows short
and so I will honor your experience and adhere to your time schedules. Thank
you for your questions and I will join you again next week at this time for
another installment in our service project together. Thank you for joining
me, farewell.





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