[tmtranscripts] FW: LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE 2-09-06

Tom Newbill t.oldbill at verizon.net
Wed Feb 15 16:57:19 PST 2006




Machiventa: Welcome all to this forum, this is Machiventa. I have been on
your world, I have had your dust between my toes. I know how the human heart
longs for understanding and for certainty. I as a Melchizedek am also quite
experienced with such needs as my own order must often recon with
uncertainty and instability. We are a lot of beings who are inclined to
address issues about Nebadon which are not clear in discernment and which
bring debate and which even have led to rebellion. And we have learned that
while it is comforting to know a clear course to pursue, that the greatest
benefit to the human soul, in your case, is to grapple with the descision,
the choice, for once you have stepped forward, the choice being made, much
follows in an order, in a process that conforms to that initial descision.

The growth progress unfolds in nearly an automatic manner until you reach a
new descision event. When you reach such a crossroads you are best situated
to deepen those spiritual traits that are essential to every step in your
ascension. Those traits include trust and faith. They also include the
development of a discerning mind. Subsequent to the selection of a course to
pursue, trust and faith and discernment narrow in focus to accomplish
goal[s], but until that choice is made, trust, discernment and faith are
wide open broadly canvassing cosmic reallity for insight, for feedback and
it is at this point that the soul opens to revelation.

It is a desire in the human nature to have a settled state wherein you
understand your course yet it is of great contribution to your strength
spiritually to face those uncertainties to come headon into quandry. Our
Michael knew this well when he permitted the three rebellions in His local
universe. When mind submits to questioning then does the soul grow. When
mind [is] fixed in inflexible certainty, then while one experiences
temporary satisfaction and stability, one postpones further growth. In
balance you will cycle through these two stages regularly for it is helpful
to have a time of leisure in your spiritual ascent and it is likewise of
great importance for you to be unsettled and stimulated to reach beyond your
current level of being.

When I was here in your human form I came with a directive and that was to
instill in the human thought stream the perception that the almighty God is
one of your Gods', that is not in the sense of your religion, but in the
sense of your own individual relationship. Having this core experience makes
it possible for you to face unsettling times and not be lost and not be
shattered. Alas the human tendency is to organize a system of thought, of
philosophy and doctrine around a teaching as simple as mine and the result
is the removal of that direct personal experience. It becomes qualified by
the system through which an individual accesses truth.

Many a poor soul has been turned away in faith because the system to which
that individual belonged failed or fell in its standards. You who have
received my teaching through your current revelation are blessed with that
route certainty. You are even able to hear even the debate about the origins
of the papers for Urantia and know that you are in the arms of God, that all
else is merely a manifestation in time and space and that the infinite
variations of Father's expression all coalesce and converge at His Paradise

All throughout your ascension you will experience greater clarity through
sharpened focus, a singular orientation of God, but simultaneous with this
orientation will be your ability to comprehend all differences. To embrace
them not necessarily as yours, but as an evolutionary requirement for all
souls to ascend. Having come here to your world following my preparations
for His visit demonstrated this pattern and His continual retreat to be with
Father, to strengthen that single purpose and His constant reaching out to
all His fellows anywhere, anywhen for He knew that within Himself, exposure
to all kinds of personalities enrichens ones self. And it is in this
enrichment that you experience the stability of trust when uncertain, of
faith when insecure, of focus when confused.

The mind and the emotions align beneath spirit, and spirit overshadows,
comforts and illuminates. I share these thoughts that you may benefit
therefrom and I open now to dialog with you.

Q: Thankyou so much Machiventa for those words, this is R****. I would like
to ask you how in our daily work and interaction with our brothers and
sisters in the world we can incorporate these newer revelations about the
Planetary Supreme Urantia and her personality and not to preach or set up a
system but to encircuit ourselves consciously with her in the service of our
fellow fellows.

Machiventa: I share your situation for I also experienced the same when I
taught those around me when I came to teach the higher way and witnessed
such reactions that seemed to disrupt that which I intended to instill yet I
was successful for my teachings so modified survived. You are encouraged by
me to present yourself in full radiance. You in so doing will maintain your
conscious alignment with spirit and while this will be invisible to another
soul there is the divine receptor within, deep behind that individual's mind
which will encircuit you. The effect, though not felt immediately, begins to
grow as does a new germinated seedling.

You are one of many who understand the projection, the future course of
Urantia and you know the multitude of beings who have taken up assignments
on this world to help. This as you know it, while populated by many diverse
individuals, is in its own right a single entity. Just as Michael encircuits
all in Nebadon with His Spirit of Truth and Mother Spirit with Her Spirit
presence and Her adjutants, so each world has its own singular encircuitment
and as you are conscious of that, teachings begin to develop a platform upon
which others upon your world will stand as well, all in time. I hope this

Q: Yes yes, thankyou so much. It is so interesting and wonderful to listen
to other people knowing that they and I are encircuited in Urantia herself.
Then we all are looking to the future and working for the future and to
encourage the future is so hard sometimes.

Machiventa: To one who has never experienced a dwelling that is equipped
with air conditioning it is a baffling grasp to have that described to them
and this is much what you experience when you do reach out to those who have
[static] this experience.

Q: This is J*** and I wanted to thank you for asking that question and
Machiventa for your wonderful response to it, it certainly spoke to me.

Machiventa: I enjoy such cosmic efficiency.

Q: Sometimes I felt that happen and could not understand what was happening
so I'm so happy to hear that explanation.

Machiventa: There is great power within each of you, and as you grow
comfortable with the experience of that power you will more readily remain
open for it to issue forth from you whereas in times of prior growth and
immaturity, the sense of that power was intimidating and causes one to close
down for the human self to regain control, but in your experience of the
beauty and the goodness that comes from the allowing of this power to come
through you, you have and are developing the key sensitivity to making
situations develop and opportunities arise around you for more of this to be
experienced by your fellows.

Q: Machiventa, can we apply this point of view on a wider scale when we
listen to the news in a positive way by acknowledging the suffering
disappointments and the chaos in political, economic and social situations
and at the same time acknowledge the change in the throes of change that
each culture, each continent, each ethnic group is going through in order to
rise to pre-light and life and to encourage that by acknowledging it as
growth, planetary growth?

Machiventa: Yes, you have described well the insight that across your world
there exist many stages of spiritual development which reflects in your
political, economic and social conditions and you know that a parent is
tolerant of a childs behavior at one stage of their maturity and more
corrective of that behavior at a newer and higher stage. So it is [static]
for every individual who has advanced far, the tolerance and understanding
and patience while other cultures, societies and individuals progress. It is
difficult to bear, I know for I have been here, but that perspective, that
overriding viewpoint will emerge in what appears to be a hectic
confrontation from all elements. Monjorenson is here on your world today
because his mission will be to bring about the new values which harmonize
the conflicting values that is upon your world today. Many fight for their
stand and soon all will grow tired of such entanglements and the destructive
consequences and will begin to look for those transcendent values which will
harmonize the viewpoints and this is the task of the Magisterial mission and
this will hasten the progress toward light and life.

Q: Well we're all in this together.

Machiventa: If I may be jovial I would assure you that the three M's, the
three musketeers, myself, Michael and Monjorenson are seeing to it that you
all benefit from all this apparent turmoil.

Q: Thankyou, we appreciate your support.

Machiventa: I am delighted to have your support. To have your conscious
acknowledgement and willing participation in this outreach of ours to you
and your desire to be participants in this project.

Q: Machiventa, is there a particular or general direction or series of
thoughts that we can direct to the planetary supreme Urantia ourselves to
expand [our] knowlege of her right now? Is there something that would
directly tie in with the correcting time?

Machiventa: Many upon your world are only in belief of life soley on earth
and while many of you have come to grasp the vast population that exists
throughout the universe and even to have discerned the divine plan behind
all this teeming life, those who hold to the view that it is only earth that
has intelligence I encourage you to teach in two ways. If that individual is
ready to expand to a populated universe they will then come to understand
the position of Urantia in the greater scheme. But if not, then you are able
to pursue the perspective that earth is then extremely valuable for if it is
or were the only living orb, it must be tended to and loved and cared for
and this will begin to expand the awareness of another toward that supreme
planetary consciousness and that will allow the eventual awakening to a
universe consciousness. Either way the results will be attained.

Q: Thankyou for so much encouragement tonight.

Machiventa: I give you my welcome for your gratitude. I will draw a close to
our conference by taking one moment for us all to look to our Michael. He is
my Fahter/Son as He is yours. He is my commander in chief so to speak. He is
our Sovereign. Michael, bless each one of your children here. Touch them in
a way that is significant to them individually. You know their intentions,
you know their hopes. May I and all my fellows succeed in assisting you as
you touch and bless them and as they do face those uncertainties of life,
while they hope for fellows of my order and others to assist, that they ever
and always look to you as their source of every one of us. Thankyou, I take

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