[tmtranscripts] N. Idaho Team 2/16/03
rickgiles at prodigy.net
Sun Feb 23 09:06:27 PST 2003
North Idaho Teaching Mission Group
Topics: Faith, Hope, Trust
Teachers: Malvantra, Elyon
February 16, 2003
* Malvantra (Jonathan TR): Greetings, friends. This is Malvantra. I
come to you today to express my pleasure at your ruminations. You cannot
imagine the delight it has brought to myself and others as we witness your
investigations into many aspects of your lives. You do well in your
efforts to weave your various life elements such as your friendships, your
physical bodies, the inventions of your sciences, your discoveries of your
scientists, the thought systems of your religions, and your own
psychological emotions and thoughts. This effort at commingling what
could be seen as separate categories creates a matrix which builds a
perspective that overlays your mind to the extent that how you decide in
your daily life is greatly enhanced.
As I look back through the records of lessons presented to you, I am
aware that the topic I choose to emphasize today has been addressed
before. You have come to know that realities of an eternal nature are
good and in time, and that the truth once heard or expressed is never
discarded but remains relevant. So, I will proceed. I wish to emphasize
today, because it is current to you all, hope. There are three words that
have slight similarities but emphasize different points, and they appear
in a fuzzy way related. However, they are more distinct than often
considered. Today I am going to draw some lines between them to give them
independent shape. I have mentioned hope; along with it there is faith,
and also trust.
You, and myself included, are creatures of time, and so we context our
concepts, our faith, trust, and hope in time. These three words have been
criticized at times because they allow uncertainty or resolve through the
displacement of personal power or ability. To have faith in God, to trust
divine law, to hope for Light and Life can be seen as potentially
stagnating, leaving it for some agency to fulfill. Faith within time has
no relevance beyond the present. To place faith in God is not for
tomorrow; it is for today and even for now and not later this day. It is
the fuel of the spiritual life. No fuel provides benefit if it sits in
the tank, in the reservoir. It must be delivered to its point of power
and used. So when you say, I have faith in God that all things will work
out what is the action to be taken? How are you going to manifest Gods
outworking? How will you combust that faith such that the work of the
will of God is done?
Then enters the notion of hope, for this view orients itself to the
future. Often hope is misaligned with wishfulness, the projection of your
own desires. Hope springs forward from faith. Faith is the instantaneous
experience of a spirit child of God that reveals the reality of spiritual
truth, beauty, and goodness through action. Hope is the projection of
this action of faith. A deep hope for the future to work out for the good
of all cannot be had without an active, living faith. It [would] then ...
become merely wishfulness. So, as you hope for goodness upon this world
you engage your faith to bring the result.
Now I will orient us toward trust. Trust implies reliance upon a
power or a structure that will sustain you, support you, and propel you
forward to protect you. Trust is different than hope, for it involves the
element of your past. It is the track record of your application of
faith. Day by day you live by faith, thus accumulating trust. Again, it
is not the wishfulness of a trust that things wont crumble; it is the
certainty and assuredness of a trust that, having undertaken difficult
experiences through faith before you know you are supported, you know you
To some extent hope and trust are the two wings attached to the
fuselage of faith. They balance the future and the past with the present.
The entire vehicle which is your being moves forward, accomplishes work,
I hope I have instilled in you thoughts to ponder. Thank you for
Evelyn: Why are you bringing this up? You have laid out some
definitions that are workable; maybe I just need to spend time pondering
* Malvantra: In levity I would say its because I lack a lesson plan.
However, such is not the case, for my preface underlined the value of
returning to previously discussed topics due to immediate relevancy. You
have discussed today many things wherein hope and trust and faith play an
important role be it in regard to your international situations, your
family lives, or your own personal quandaries. There are many who receive
my words by way of your good services, and so I present these that those
who receive will draw from my comments what applies to their situations as
they receive it. I trust because of the presence of the Fathers spirit
within each that these notions will be applied and bring benefit to the
soul of everyone.
I hope this might be helpful. I might ask how may you at this hour
apply these ideas? I wish your feedback.
Evelyn: When you started into hope, faith, and trust it sounded like
a triangle. Hope is an individual perspective, faith is in God, and trust
is in others, that being another triangle pattern.
Ginny: Faith, hope, and trust are virtues of time. As we ascend in
awareness of our soul growth those virtues become more knowledge and love,
I suspect. How much does our faith and trust depend on having knowledge
and information? We love and trust that which we know; they increase the
more we know. Or not?
* Malvantra: Before I let others comment I wish to interject.
Yes, knowledge does elevate faith and trust and hope. In a way it
boosts the octane of your faith/fuel and can improve the performance of
your spiritual life. However, one ought to assure oneself that knowledge
is an accumulation that spans eternity. Faith must be used in this
instant. So, while knowledge improves faith, faith must act at the level
it can with all considerations present, be they fully or partially.
You do not err in noting the triangular relationship of these three.
I mentioned that trust has a link to the past, and in this past are
multiple experiences which fits your perspective of many. Faith is
irrelevant without God. No one individual can borrow the hope of another;
it must be your personal possession.
I wish to receive more of your comments.
Tom: Trust and faith are also things you cant borrow; they must be
developed yourself. You can be inspired by others but it has to arise in
the heart of the believer.
* Malvantra: Indeed it does, and it is done so through living faith,
not a faith that is alive, but that you live your faith. Trust, while it
is yours alone, does involve multiple factors. It may not be people; it
may be experiences that are yours. It is the accumulation of these
experiences, even insights, that trust develops in.
As you ascend, as you have commented in our discussion, each one of
these words slides from the wishful, tenuous feelings of uncertainty
toward the end of spiritual maturity where certainty and asssuredness are
strong elements in your faith, trust, and hope.
Tom: In healing, those who are counting on a healer, even though
their own acceptance is required, they can be inspired by and have faith
and trust and hope that another can see the end from the beginning. That
gives them the courage to jump that gap and allow healing to flow.
* Malvantra: This is true, well said.
Kirk: I like the idea of faith being for the moment whatever happens.
Its all working for the good, its all working for God. Hope is that
everybody has that faith and the trust that it will happen, that its
* Malvantra: Thank you very much each of you for your interjections,
for you have provided for many who will observe this meeting of ours, that
necessary human element that correlates with your fellows. In so doing
you also contribute to inspiring hope, activating faith, and deepening
trust. As I chose to ask you for your responses today I hoped each would.
I trusted that you would, for my experiences of the past have revealed to
me that you are quite full of many things to say. So, in faith I asked
Ginny: I hope you enjoy our little dialogue as much as we enjoy
* Malvantra: I do most profoundly. The melchizedek universities are
designed to educate the ascending children according to the directions of
Michael. However, this is not a curriculum that is force-fed; it is a
curriculum that is revealed through the actions and choices of these
ascending personalities, yourselves included. So, we arrange our lesson
plans for relevancy and applicability as you grapple with your current
understanding, your current enlightenment, and your motives for growth.
* Elyon: This is Elyon, I greet you today. I just simply wish to
interject a comment, and that is, way to go, team! for you have pleased
our resident melchizedek, and that is thrilling to me, your teacher. It
is a joy to witness my friends, who you are, having an effect upon a
melchizedek son and to witness my own melchizedek instructor having such a
good effect upon you. Naturally this does not only apply to today but
spans our years of association. Keep up the good work. You are
fulfilling my hopes when I took in faith this assignment as a teacher in
this Correcting Time. I trusted the melchizedeks and now I trust you.
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