[tmtranscripts] TRAVELING WITH LANTARNEK Aug.15, 1999

Rick P. Giles RickGiles at prodigy.net
Wed Sep 1 08:36:54 PDT 1999


(Third in a series of six)

August 15, 1999 near Vernon, B.C.

*	Lantarnek  (Jonathan TR):  Greetings to you.  I am grateful for your
attention and for your
diligence in approaching me once again.  It is assuring to witness [that]
assignments as these are
rewarding.  I recognize that each of you has developed the ability to
maintain a focus spiritually while
going about your daily activities.  [Editor's note: In the meantime a loud
car starts up in the adjacent
campground site causing much distraction.]  True, you may not maintain one
hundred percent continual
spiritual perspective, but that you are ever ready to return to that
overview.  Your oscillations are minor.
	I wish to speak on the topic of engagement this evening.  I realize that
you understand much that
I would address.  Rather than proceed with the intention of offering
inspiration, I would instead practice
this act by engaging you in questions and answers.  My first question is:
What is your preferred technique
or method for returning to your spirit center when you find yourself out of
kilter or off base?
	Evelyn:  I try to consider the time element, what a short amount of time
that the particular
annoyance effects, which is usually a very short span.  It  makes my
annoyance seem disproportionately
large considering how fleeting the whole incident is.  It's not thast I get
particularly centered as a result,
but I can rein in my emotions a bit.
	Jada:  My method is to stop and try to gain a broader perspective of the
situation, to rise above.
	Jael:  I've found that if I use the words to songs that have positive
lyrics that brings me back.  I
tend to click into a positive song.
	Evelyn:  If I'm saying things in my mind I can remind myself that the
things I am saying
probably apply to me, and that sobers me up a bit, too.
*	Lantarnek:  I recognize in each of your comments an effort to go beyond
yourself, to infuse your
experience with an enlarged perspective.  This is a morontia quality to
incorporate grander perspectives
that place you among the condition rather than at center of the condition.
This is good, for any attempt to
properly place yourself with the Father as center contributes to the
resolution of conflict.
	What, may I ask, has been the highlight of your day?
	Jael:  While we were driving though beautiful valleys reading to Jada
Fred's story of his coming
upon the Teaching Mission.
	Jada:  It was my morning meditation in a beautiful setting in the quiet
hills.  Very peaceful.
	Evelyn:  It was a nice day.  Picking berries.  Seeing those yak, or fuzzy
cattle.  That was different.
*	Lantarnek:  Jonathan, you are not exempt from these comments.
	Jonathan:  I would say my highlight for the day was my morning prayer and
quiet time.  My
method for overcoming that off-kilter feeling is to repeat my mantra, "It is
my will to serve you, my
Father.  Your will be done."  In doing so I usually experience a shrinking
of that self importance as I
begin to see my little funk isn't the big hurricane that my mind would like
to believe it is.
*	Lantarnek:  When you awake each day what is it that you place before you
as your primary
directive, in spite of which day it is and what activities are in store or
previously lined up for you that
particular day?
	Jada:  Spiritual growth.
	Jael:  I know that I wake up and am alive to serve.  I am always thankful
that we have somany
ways that we can serve.
	Evelyn:  I hope that I recognize opportunities for service when they come
along.  I know I miss a
lot of them.
*	Lantarnek:  I witness in your comments the elements of truth and beauty
and goodness.  Your
first expressions leaned heavily toward truth.  Your second expressions
contained much that is beauty, and
your third incorporated a great deal of goodness, though these are not
strong demarcations, for each
comment contained a little of all.
	Approaching every day with these three elements is the way to realize the
fulfilling power of love
in your life and for this love to make an affect on those around you.  It
may not be recognized as loving by
another initially, for they will experience first either the quality of
goodness or beauty or truth, but it will
build upon their lives and will, when they apply their will, totalize into
an experience of love as you have
already accomplished in your lives by integrating these three factors.  Even
if you are not conscious, you
have chosen to do so.  I witness it functioning naturally and more easily in
you as time unfolds.
	Have you ever wondered what your life would be had you never elected the
spiritual path?
	Jada:  It seems like the road to destruction.
	Jael:  I don't think I ever thought about not choosing the spiritual path.
All I can remember is a
long period of time searching and wondering where to find the truth.  There
were a lot of things that came
up in my life that just didn't fit for me.
	Evelyn:  I think I might  have followed one of those three [truth, beauty,
and goodness], beauty
for instance.  I  think I might have picked a place to live based on the
beautiful environment but not the
balance of the three. 
	Jonathan:  As much as I can remember  I have always felt the presence of
God.  I think had I
rejected that as no different than Santa Claus, for instance, I think I
might have experienced a life that
was extremely unhappy.  I would have felt an emptiness that initially was
not there.  I felt that presence. 
If I had cast it away I think I would have followed, as Jada said, a path to
destruction.
*	Lantarnek:  What would be your response today if you were to have received
contact from the
Father's Presence that announced that you were qualified for fusion?
	Evelyn:  How would we react if we heard today that we were qualified to fuse?
*	Lantarnek:  Correct.
	Evelyn:  Disbelief.
	Jael:  I would probably argue that I wasn't ready.
	Jada:  Well, it is something that I'm hoping for.  I'm sure it's going to
happen at the right time
and the right place.
	Jonathan:  I would have been shocked and doubtful that I received that
message, and
subsequently reflective that I may be tested to see if I was really wanting
to receive it now.  I'd wonder if
there was a certain amount of personality reaction that is observed that
would finalize that effect of fusion.
	Evelyn:  I would be willing to leave because I have thought about, "What if
I were to die
tomorrow?"  Fusion would be dying as far as leaving friends and family and
what is happening here. 
When I think about dying I think that's fine.  I really don't object.  I'd
like for my life to have been
worthwhile, but if I am called somewhere else, I am willing to go.  I would
just be very surprised that
that's all the requirement was!  I thought it would be tougher than that.
There's plenty more saints
walking around.
	Jael:  I get to thinking, "Don't we need more help here?" This earth is so
needy.
*	Lantarnek:  It is a wonderful sight to behold, individuals who are so keen
on personal growth and
service to your fellows and so willing to step outside of oneself to see a
grand scheme, to set yourself aside
for the sake of a higher purpose, to even hesitate upon hearing that you
have qualified for fusion, for you
are exhibiting the ability to not be self-absorbed, and this ability
contributes toward the attainment of that
very goal of fusion.  In a sense, by setting yourself aside, you gain
yourself hundred fold.  It is the very
principle of he who loses himself for the sake of the kingdom, gains.
	When the Master engaged others in conversation his primary goal was to draw
the individual
into these types of considerations that we have discussed this evening.  His
topics would vary.  His
questions would adjust to the moment.  But his principle of drawing the
attention of the other individual
to the elements of truth or goodness or beauty, of the high and the low
points of one's life or day, all lead
to reflective thinking and allow the application of spirit leverage from above.
	It is most easy to perceive service needs in individuals on a physical
level.  It is less obvious the
needs on a psychological and spiritual level, thus the approach of
engagement becomes valuable in
drawing another out of himself such that you may discover where you may be
helpful.  Also, I would
encourage you to ask yourself these questions often, perhaps in your times
of stillness, so that you may
focus your daily life into your times of worship and stimulate reflectivity,
to weave a thread of continuity
throughout all the events of a day, a week, a month, a year.
	By doing so in your quiet time you are allowing the Father's fragment to
rehash these events. 
Throughout your day Father is accumulating these experiences for your future
life, but when you reflect in
this manner you become more aware of this very process and become a
conscious contributor to this
growth, not simply one who is generating the contributions, but one who is
helping to collaborate these
contributions into the resultant soul.
	I hope this has been illustrative for you and becomes a technique you can
utilize.  Before we close
this evening I would like to hear your reflections on the value of these
processes.
	Jael:  I feel like I am opening up in a lot of areas.  Just remembering to
do stillness is new in my
mind, to actually pull it off.  I feel like I am open and willing to do
anything to help in my own personal
spiritual growth and soul.  That way I will be a more effective tool for Father.
	Jonathan:  I always like little concrete tools like, if I am sitting with a
stranger on a bus and I
don't know what to say to him, to think right off the bat - truth, beauty,
and goodness!  Ask a question
that might amplify a discussion in that realm such that comments might be
made that would be helpful.  I
appreciate the notion of reflecting on both the low point and high point of
the day.
	Jada:  I often feel at a loss to engage people.  I see the value if I ask
myself these questions daily
it is going to be easier to ask other people.  I'm sure it will develop and
grow on its own.
	Evelyn:  I can be very habitual.  If I can replace some of the habits I
have with these questions,
they would be better habits, toss those questions in rather than the more
selfish variants.
*	Lantarnek:  Thank you for this meeting.  I have enjoyed hearing your
comments, and it gives me
better insight into your orientation.  I will reflect upon these myself such
that I may be a better teacher for
you.  Know that when another approaches you inquiring into you, that that
individual is sincere in asking,
for if they were not, they would have elected not to ask at all.  Some may
ask with uncertainty because of
their own sense of self worth being lower than they ought to give themselves
credit.  However, the effort to
even address you indicates they have overridden their sense of unworthiness
just to inquire.  That inquiry
indicates that they feel you are important enough to provide them
information and that they are important
enough to be worthy of receiving it.  So, ever be willing to relate yourself
to your fellows whether it is you
engaging them or they engaging you.
	I will take my leave now.  Thank you.




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