Elyonm Group 6/14/97

Rick P. Giles RickGiles at prodigy.net
Mon Jun 22 07:55:30 PDT 1998

Coeur d'Alene Teaching Mission Group
Topic: Encouragement and Tanscendence
Teachers: Mantutia and Elyon

June 14, 1998
*	Mantutia  (Sheila):  Greetings, I am Mantutia.  If your
discussions today were term papers, you would all have A's.  Your
discussions included intellectual thoughts, feelings, wonderment, and
this is precisely the process which we are hopeful will be the result
of our teachings to you.  Most of all each and every discussion
included love.  Whether your wonderment or your intellectualization
of these topics are correct in their perspective does not matter, for
your perspective and willingness to apply love are the one and only
important factor in all subjects and all matters at hand, in all
discussions.  If you were to say, "I love this weather today; how
about you?" would be better off than, "How about the weather?"  In
all communications bringing in the factor -- even the word -- love,
God, Father, you have served the conversation well.  I will only add
now that I do indeed love you.  Thank you.
	Tom:  I have a question regarding the recent emphasis on being
the gospel as opposed to preaching the gospel.   Is this a new
mandate?  Should the old be considered less or should they go
*	Elyon  (Jonathan):  I greet you; this is Elyon, and I will
answer your question.
	The information that is the gospel is valuable, for it is the
recipe for fulfilled spiritual living and must be presented to all in
order that they each can begin to order their lives through this
recipe and experience the results, that is, the result of being the
gospel.  The natural result of learning the gospel is that it will be
undertaken as a lifestyle.  However, we are all too familiar with the
tendency to grow complacent through understanding and not to go the
second mile and challenge oneself to actually, literally, adopt the
teaching in every action.
	  For you who understand, the best advice we can give is for
you to live reflective of Michael.  For those who do not understand,
restatement of the gospel is the beginning of their growth in the
truths contained therein.  However, for that to be recognized as
valuable and truth-filled, you must, yourself, grow with the results
of having adopted the teaching.
	In a way, it is a new proclamation, for this is the era that
begins the restoration of interplanetary contact, of celestial and
terrestrial communication.  Until now -- and even now -- humankind
perceives itself as isolated, unworthy, and fearful of assumed
divinity, of the warning of blasphemy.  Because of this, humankind
has tended to content itself with the verbal proclamation.  While
many have sought to transform themselves through the application of
the teaching, now we begin to transform all.  So, it becomes your
task to do both, to make the statements, but you must also
demonstrate the results.  Just as no recipe is worthwhile without the
dish being cooked, the gospel sits idle without its servants actively
being its content.
	Have I answered your question?
	Tom:  That was quite a feast!  Thank you. 
	Elyon:  I will make a few more comments under the heading,
"Transcendence".  What I observe in your conversation today is your
ability to understand events in your lives and principles of truth by
rising above and taking a broad view of the conditions that
contribute to a situation.  This is transcendence.  By undertaking
this process, you have been rewarded with enhanced insight.  You have
better prepared yourselves to act in the events of your lives that
are connected to the situations that you transcended in order to
	Transcendence in no way implies removal, distance,
insensitivity.  To transcend is not to kick the dust from your feet
and walk away as though you are above it all.  It is the method for
comprehension of situations.  In the illumination provided, the duty
falls to you to act accordingly.  I encourage you to use this method
of comprehension often, even continually, for it will then give your
life a twofold course that you travel.  Know that the Father's
presence within you is functioning in this manner at all times. 
Paradise is its goal while yet actively engaged in the events of your
	The master said that he came to teach self-forgetfulness.  You
know the value that has been derived from your efforts to improve
yourself through spiritual and psychological work.  This is not
denied in his teaching; rather it points to this transcendent
ability.   To be self-forgetful is to be divinely mindful.  With this
perspective, ministry to others is improved and ministry to yourself
becomes equally as valuable as ministry to others.  You do not forget
yourself to the detriment of your well-being.  Rather you seat
yourself in the position of the Father and through His perspective
undertake your work.  
	I hope I have provided you with another insight that may
further your growth and improve your ministry.  Thank you. 
	Sandy:  Why can't we just ask the question: Is there
reincarnation?  What is the light of life?  Explain God.?  We fight
to understand these big questions all our lives.  We should just be
able to ask.
	Elyon:  I will address your point.  You mention three
questions:  reincarnation, light of life, and God.  Perhaps we can
deal with all three at the same time.
	  The value of life is light.  In a physical sense life on this
world would not be without the sun.  In the spiritual sense, your
life has meaning because of the light that indwells you.  This is the
principal, important focus for you to have.  In the rise from
ignorance to enlightenment over the course of time on this planet,
you have gained increased understanding of life.  It has evolved
slowly and has ventured down many philosophic paths.  Revelation, on
the other hand, has brought to you better knowledge of the light. 
Understanding this light will clarify the questions of life.
	But to simply limit oneself to the correlation of the manifold
factors of life will only yield a hazy understanding of this life. 
This is why the revelators of The Urantia Papers chose to focus away
from the reincarnation descriptions yielded by your religious
teachers of ages past, for many of those questions take on secondary
importance when you are well informed and experientially versed with
the spiritual presence.
	To comprehend who is God requires description upon description
upon description, yielding further questions and increasing
complexity of the subsequent description.  Yet no one individual from
the most brilliant of minds to the most simple of heart can ever deny
the experience of this presence.  It is a spectacular unfoldment that
we witness as the many evolutionary worlds develop their
comprehension of deity -- all of which err in one respect or another,
yet never once have we found an individual who truly experiences the
presence to have missed the import of that embrace of the Father. 
Therefore, I say to you that your primary teaching to others is to
have this experience with the Father.  Following this, you can be of
great encouragement to the mind of that soul who experiences the
Father by leading them to the information sources that would benefit
them as it is qualified by their nature and character.
	Has this been helpful?
	Sandy:  It has been. Wow, so much was said.  I'll have to go
home and analyze it.  I think you are great, Elyon, thank you for the
*	Elyon:  You are welcome.  
	John:  We were talking about an incident [a black man being
dragged to death behind a truck].  Questions come up about why it
happened.  The universe considers him a hero.  Is there preexistence? 
How could he be a hero?  Did he know ahead of time?  Is there
reincarnation?  From the answer that you gave, I gather the
revelators didn't want to go there because it is too complicated for
us.  This is why we ask these questions.  I realize the evolutionary
process; I guess I am just commenting.
*	  Elyon:  I will comment in return.  You are well aware that
truth is eternal.  It has its base in the absolute that never
changes.  You are also aware that truth is dynamic, ever flowing,
ever conditioning itself to the situations of life that it may be
revealed to the mind.  In understanding events in your life, seeking
to grasp the eternal truth will bring greater understanding of a
situation or an event, as you have cited.  Whether this situation had
to occur for the truth to be revealed is not as important as to
understand that the truth contained in the event is ever-present.  Be
it a thousand miles away or right around the corner, another event
will also reveal this same truth.
	So, as far as comprehending the reason for an occurrence, it is
beneficial to transcend and proceed from the truth perspective.  Then
the events themselves become the scaffolding through which
enlightenment is brought forth.  
	John:  I'd like to get you in a headlock and ask you, "Is there
preexistence?"  I'd just like to know.  I know there is a purpose, a
universal way of looking at all this.  You know what can be revealed
to us.  Thank you, what you say is helpful.
*	Elyon:  You are welcome.  I would  comment about this
preexistence.  I know -- for I detect in each of you survival
qualities; this is confirmed by the Father's presence -- you all have
post-existence.  It is coming; it is now credited to you.
	In your question of preexistence, consider this:  Did God have
a preexistence?  He has always been.  Nothing preceded His existence. 
You are His children; you reside within Him. 
	I leave this with you to ponder.  

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