SUBJECT: LIGHTLINE TELEPHONE CONFERENCE

DATE: 9-23-04

TEACHER: MACHIVENTA

T/R: MARK ROGERS

TOPICS:

Prayer: Divine parents, we cherish this opportunity to get closer to you in
this manner. We welcome you into our hearts and into our lives and into this
circle that we form, into this circuit that we embrace now. We ask that you
come closer to us as we come closer to you. We recognize that you send your
emmisaries of light to be with us and guide us and we would welcome at this
time to hear their words and offer you our sincerest thanks that this
happens in this manner, in this fashion, through our faith even now.
Thankyou.

Machiventa: Greetings to this assembled classroom. This is your supervisor
Machiventa. I welcome this opportunity to embrace this circuit with you at
this time and whenever you are willing to make this connection with us, for
as we have stated before, in the final analysis it is you that make this
connection real. It is your gesture of faith towards us that allows this
circuit to exist.

Therefore do I honor each of you who arrives at this platform with willing
and open hearts to hear what words of comfort and instruction you may hear
and take to heart. I have had the pleasure of addressing a great many
students eager to learn of the spiritual ways and I now address a crowd
which is equal to any I have had the honor and privilege of working with
before.

Indeed you step forward bravely and sincerely and embrace my words and the
words of others with an open heart and a spiritually receptive capacity. It
is a great pleasure to provide words of guidance and comfort to those who
are eager to hear such teachings, and as we proceed together in this
classroom, we become friendly with each other to the point of greater
acceptance and deeper understanding.

I recognize that although this process has been going on for quite some time
for some of you, it still remains somewhat mysterious and causes some
aprehension for those who lay their faith on the line, as it were, but you
have each one proven to yourselves the reality of that which we undertake
and the lasting effects of the lessons that we grapple with need help to
strengthen these faith muscles and the next time you are called to act it
becomes easier.

This is the pattern that we have to work with, the slow and sure building of
your comfort zones around entering the spiritual arena. As you grow more
comfortable and are able to enter further each time into this spiritual
arena, you will at times gaze back over your shoulder and perceive the
distance you have traveled to be where you are now. As well you will gaze
around at your fellows and realize that there is some distance between you
who have excercised your faith muscles and become strong, and those who
have not yet had the courage to pull back the veil and enter into the
spiritual arena.

It is not as though they do not desire to explore this unknown realm, but
rather they are entirely unfamiliar with the door that must be located and
their actions that must be taken in order to bring them to the door, then
through the door. This is where each of us can help. Those of us who are
familiar with the ways of spirit and the comfort and peace that this
spiritual presense brings, are empowered to act as beacons of light to those
who would explore these uncharted realms.

It befalls to those who know, to instruct those who desire to know. Thus I
am here now with you. Thus you may act as guides to those who desire to know
what you know. To have a certainty of spirit that you now enjoy. In order to
be effective ministers of this spiritual realm it is necessary to take on
the very traits and characteristics of that you would reflect. Therefore it
is required of those hardy spiritual soldiers that they become the
manifestation of that which they desire to reflect to others.

It is not adequate to simply know of spiritual presense, to speak about
spiritual truths, or to instruct others in the superficial principles of
spirit, rather must you become these principles, and in so doing you will
the more completely manifest these very principals to those around you who
desire to find them. It is not necessary that you to withdraw from all human
and material activities in order to accomplish this, no, rather you overlay
the spiritual principles that you have come to know onto your everyday life
affairs and bring spiritual content into every act that the human engages
in.

Your Master, our Master Michael, was indeed a Master at manifesting the very
priciples he spoke of and it was rightly declared of him that he taught as
much by doing as by preaching the gospel, I submit even more. It can be
discussed and talked and preached about, but in the final analyssis, actions
speak so much louder than words that attention must be paid to our actions
as we proceed through this life.

One common complaint that the masses of people have about supposedly
religious individuals in this realm, is that they speak on Sundays a good
game and talk lofty ideals, and then depart from these lofty principals and
ideals in their actions throughout the week and with others. May we all
pray that we do not succumb to such easy temptation as to depart from that
which we hold as a spiritual ideal, when we are required to act in an
entirely physical capacity.

It is our challenge, it is our opportunity to bring into every human act
that we are involved in, an element of spirit, an overtone of grace that we
may portray higher ideals and supreme values, even as we are required to
earn our sustenance or be in service to another.

The events of this world are rapidly changing, and as this occurs so arise
the opportunities for growth and spiritual injection into the balance. Be
keenly aware and alert as opportunities arise in your lives, in your
circumstances, for you to be the voice of spirit, the presense of love in
your life circumstances. It is unimportant, the words you may use. It is the
posture that you maintain that will be of impact in this scenario. Therefore
should we all who are blessed with such indepth awareness of spirit, its
purpose and function and attitude, that we bring these characteristics all
the way down into the material realm even into the day to day affairs of our
lives as we live them.

There is no reason to wait for a better time or opportunity. It is up to us
to act. There is a saying in your theatrical world..." there are no small
parts...only small actors". Likewise is your scenario even now...there are
no small opportunities...only individuals too small to accept them,
therefore seek these opportunities that will be presented to you in the
course of your everyday life. When you perceive that one arises before you,
seize the moment. Turn the tables and inject spirit content into your casual
affairs. You will be surprised at the results.

This is not a commandment. This is a gift, an opportunity laid before your
feet. If you do not accept this opportunity, then it will pass and others
will be made availbe to you. It will take you practice just as it has taken
you practice to get to this point to hear my words even now, but you will
try again. You will maintain your posture of spirit awareness. You will
portray the values you have come to know in the spirit realm and these will
transcend your earthly affairs and transform your life patterns into ones of
beauty and grace.

It is at once extremely simple and at the same time very far off. You are
the ones who bridge the gap. You decide how far you reach, what is the
extent of your grasp. Do you pull into you that which you are familiar with
and have come to know and make it a part of you, indeed you become a part of
it? This is your opportunity. If not now, when? If not this age, perhaps
another, but for you, everything is contained here and now.

We will continue to provide you with all the assistance and support that we
can from our side of the curtain, but you are the one upon which the light
shines and whose face they see in your realm, whose voice they hear,
therefore is it your privilege to speak the truths you have come to know,
plainly and simply and sincerely and let them have the impact on others that
they will but to bolster your courage, but fear not that interjecting spirit
is somehow inappropriate.

I tell you the time is now when spirit needs to be present and you are the
ones who are in a position to make this so. I may speak to you, and this is
a privilege and pleasure I enjoy, but I may not speak to all those who come
in contact with you in your daily lives, that is left to you. It is part of
this grand experiment that we are involved in and each one of you has chosen
to become players in this environment and it is upon your shoulders that
this experiment rests.

I have given numerous pep talks like this to various groups throughout your
history and I am pleased to give it to you this day that you may be enthused
and energized to be about this business of the Father, to be active soldiers
on the field, active players on the stage. It is a pleasure I hold dear to
be involved with you in this time, and I look forward to the grand
accomplishments I forsee us making as we fulfill the desire of Michael whose
plan we impliment. In its very implimentation we cannot fail if we proceed
with our hearts so oriented as to be willing to do his will.

I thank you all for the parts you play individually and collectively as a
group. I applaud this circuit that you form and offer my commitment to work
with you through it and any other way we may devise to make this contact.
That is the extent of my comments tonight and would entertain suggestions or
questions should there be any.

Q: These 3,000 or so lessons on the teaching mission archives...are they
similar to the teachings you imparted to the students at your school in
Salem and how do they differ?

Machiventa: The universal principles that I refer to remain the same
universe principles throughout what may appear to you to be a long duration
of time but in fact is a short episode of history and these universal
principles have been a part of the teaching of spiritual students since
first students were able to formulate the questions. What does change in the
curriculum or program that is introduced to a given set of students in a
given time is largely dictated by the capacity of those students, therefore
some materials are very similar and some are quite different as different
individuals or groups would be more suceptible to understanding certain
truths than others, even perhaps eager to understand some truths over
others.

There are cultural barriers that we face. There are barriers of race and
religious stereotypes that we grapple with and to address how your lessons
may differ from the lessons of others, we attempt to personallize the
lessons given to the audience that is in reception of these lessons, that is
to say, speak in terms that the audience would readily recognize and accept.
As you know in your historical text, there were many erroneous ideas even of
the one God which I portrayed when I walked on your world.

It was a great feat of understanding to simply gather the many varied
beliefs under one umbrella of one single deity entity, that the Father, and
in those times, that was a monumental accomplishment. I had to be satisfied
with the limited scope of that accomplishment when I was on the earth. As
you can imagine, it seemed to fall short of the many expanded concepts and
universal principles that were available, but the peoople in that time were
unable and did not have the capacity to appreciate any more than we were
able to portray at that time which was indeed very limited.

Then when our beloved Creator manifested his walk on the earth, he was able
to go several steps deeper and further than was I when I was there and now
you come into existense having the luxury of building your concept frame on
the foundation that I built first, then Michael, then your Urantia book
text, and now you have the benefit of a great scaffolding that has been
built for you. Now from your vantage point, you look out and wonder why do
not more individuals understand the things that you understand. Why don't
more people know what you know.

But I submit to you that we have built a foundation and a platform upon
which you stand and observe that around you and it is to your credit that
you stand atop these works that we have provided but mistake not that there
are a great many varied levels of understanding, tolerance, and approach
among all your brothers and sisters and to some they are not even so far
removed as to understand that there is but one God. Does this answer your
question?

Q: Thankyou for being so comprehensive in your elaboration.

Q: Thankyou for your motivational talk. Given these times we humans get more
curious about what would happen next and I understand you might not tell us
what is happening but can you give us any new information on the Magisterial
mission.

Machiventa: My friend, the Magisterial mission is in the making. As it were,
history has not been written about what is about to happen. I cannot say
with any certainty that any specific direction or plan or action is
impending, but I can say with absolute certainty that with the injection of
this Magisterial mission, the potential for great change is upon us and my
attempt to motivate you spiritual souls to action speaks to the fact that
this mission as part of its component, has an element of co-creation within
it. It has been so ordained that the fruition of this mission will come
about through activation of all available spiritual components, that is the
activation all the way down the chain of command to become partners and work
hand in hand, co-creating this next phase of our reality.

It is not a mandate from on high which dictate that things will be thus and
such and therefore they will be. This is a mandate in which ideals and
principles and values will be present and will become manifested through the
reaching out into all the fingers, as it were, of the spiritually competent.
These fingers of which we all are, are empowered from on high in this
co-creative activation of spirit principles. Therefore, does it require of
each of us that we manifest this presense, that we become a finger in this
"hand of Michael" on this world.

It is not that we are mandated to be about a given task, it is that we are
empowered with the opportunity to create a world in which spirit may reign.
This is our privilege in these times, to be this spark, to be this voice, to
be this hand, that we become willing partners in this grand unfoldment and
provide that which is required to make what is an ideal into reality, make
what is a principle into a way of life. In that sense, we each one are
powerful creators. We have the potential in us and through us to be
activated by spirit, to be charged by values, and to make real in the
material world, that which we now only think of as an ideal or as a
spiritual reality.

In this way does the responsibility fall all the way down to us, to you,
that we may accept this charge, that we may have the courage to speak the
words, to take the action, to be the bridge that allows spirit to flow out
to the largest realms, out even to our world. There is a great spiritual
pressure, a great spiritual charge on the other side of the curtain. It is
as the big black cloud that gathers before the lightning storm. There is
great energy and activity involved in this spiritual cloud. We now need to
be individual grounding rods that this lightning may strike and may pass
onto our earth, onto our world, a new and greater reality.

That is what I will say about this Magisterial mission. Do not look without
for great and grandiose things to occur, rather look each one to themselves
to be the grounding rod for this great and grand thing to touch, to be a
part of, to energize. That is the role we play at this time. It is not given
us to know the role of the Magisterial Son himself or his assistants, except
that we are his assistants. We must assume that posture. We must maintain
that role as this time is upon us. Is this helpful?

Q: Indeed, thakyou so much.

Q:Is this Michaels' idea Machiventa or is it coming from upstairs?

Machiventa: This plan that we are undergoing, is in fact Michaels' mandate,
if you will, in that as his mandate, this carries with it a certain
guarantee of success. It is with the blessing and approval of the Father,
certainly, but it is an act of creation once again from our Creator, which
empowers us to become co-creators, which in turn empowers all of his
children and his planet of bestowal. This that we are engaged in, very much
is pleasing in the sight of Michael, that we are doing this course is
greatly approved of by all the forces on high and therefore do we have vast
amounts of resources allocated to our efforts.

If you only knew. I can encourage you and offer words of comfort, but if you
only were aware of the great clouds that gather on the horizon and are ready
to have a discharge of spirit onto this realm, you would realize that we are
statically charged and simply awaiting the right moment.

Q: It would be wonderful I'll tell you, because with the war going on and
the conditions of this planet and the spiritual darkness that surrounds it
in so many places, it would be such a welcome sight. I love the idea of
being a lightning rod, just to keep grounded , just to feel the jolt, of
that kind of spiritual power and energy, it is very exciting.

Machiventa: I will also offer you these words, that, as you have expressed,
there are large storm clouds brewing in your realm as well. There is great
darkness that must be dispelled upon this world, and that there will arise
many things which seem to be incongruous with these statements of spiritual
profession that I have just made, but I will remind you, that when you
observe these matters of materialism gone awray, you must retreat to the
realm of spirit wherein you and we all are unassailable. When you become
overwhelmed with all that is going on without, you must retreat and recharge
into the realm within wherein you may contact the greater spiritual
realities and the higher spiritual values.

This will provide you the strenght that you need to endure through what you
must witness as things material may seem to fall apart. Michael said "to the
true believer, what does it matter if all earthly things fail." He was
referring to the security and certainty of spirit and it is very true that
once you are entirely secure and certrain in your spiritual realm, you are
not nearly so traumatized or impacted by events material. Do what you can
while you are in the material form you are in. Be of the highest service to
Michael that you can be in the capacity that you are now.

Be the steadfast lightning rod into your world. If that is the measure of
your capacity and your abilities, be the best one there is. Leave the big
picture up to the Magisterial Son and Michael. They will handle the big
picture. It is for us to be concerned with our everyday affairs and the
impact that we may have in this life while knowing of the higher values in
the next.

Q: I sure do love you Machiventa.

Machiventa: My love to you as well, my dear one.

[ed. note. There was a personal question and answer which is
omitted...however a followup comment of general interest is included]

Machiventa: ....I will also throw one more bit for you to savor and that is
likewise does all of humanity have a dormant spiritual gene which the energy
of spirit now pervading this planet may actualize in this life, in this
time, so that when one looks around and wonders what will cause great great
changes to be about on this world, I say to you, this is the largest single
factor, this dormant gene that all of Michaels children have, to hear his
voice as the Shephard and respond. This gene will be activated when the
spiritual pressure to this world reaches a significant level, therefore
making this leap of spiritual faith an inevitable reality on this world.

I will at this time let this T/R go and will look forward to our next
encounter. Wherever and whenever the conditions are favorable you can count
on my presense in observance or in capacity as instructor, either way it is
always a pleasure to me. Thankyou all for attending today and hearing my
words. Farewell.